Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 2040886)

I think everyone here knows what my answer would be.

In a word. Never.

But I will elaborate in my own words, and not just toss out quotes from my nations founding fathers.

I have seen and experienced enough of this world to know that not everything is worth fighting for, and lofty words like "freedom" and "liberty" can seem like hallow, empty words. But there is a single word, that I would fight and die for with all my heart and soul.

Home.


The word home is many things. It's your house, your car, all your stuff. It's where you lay you head down at night, its your sanctuary, it's where your kids are, where your wife is, it is your friends, it your family, it's your neighbors. It is every thing you know and love. But it's that and more. It's about having choices, it's about being able to come and go as you please, it's about being the decider of your own actions, it's about making your own choices, its being able to plot the course of your own future, it's about the pursuit of happiness.

Now, everyone in the world comes from somewhere, everyone has their roots. One cannot take flight forever, you eventually have to land somewhere. Somewhere, you'll eventually have to make a stand. Home isn't always perfect, but it's still home, and home is worth fighting for more then anything else in the world.

So no, i would never surrender my constitutional rights in order to feel safer. The safety of myself, my loved ones, my home, is my responsibility. I love it too much to entrust that to someone else.

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat (Post 2041106)

btw, what part of the constitution garantees the right to 30 round mags?

Originally Posted by raymond6751 (Post 2041120)

You want the right to stay indoors at night because the streets are kill zones.

Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2041107)

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2040792)

And he wasn't standing on a gallows at the time, but in a church at a meeting of the Virginia House of Burgesses. In fact his only involvement in the Revolution was to make speeches; he never served in a military role.

To make matters worse, it's questionable whether he ever said it at all. The only record comes from a biography written forty-two years after the fact, with no intervening documentation.

And by-the-by...

It's "due" respect, meaning something that is owed. "Do" means to perform an act.

Originally Posted by raymond6751 (Post 2041120)

You want the right to have your kids take classes in free-fire zones.
You want the right to bury your children.
You want the right to stay indoors at night because the streets are kill zones.
You want the right to fire at a bad guy (presumed), to miss, and to kill some innocent person.
You want the right to have your wife, kids, girlfriends, and mommy caught in a crossfire between folks who disagree.
You want a right to keep loaded guns and kids in the same house.
You want to watch your neighbors who are also armed.
You want big guns, hollow point ammo, big mags, and hospitals so full they can't take in your son or daughter when they need help.
You want criminals let loose early because the jails are overflowing.
You want the right to shoot first at anyone who looks or acts in any way that makes you feel unsafe.
:hmm2:

Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2041203)

However, I'd rather be shot by a family member trying to stop a criminal, than to stand there with my hands in my pockets why they rape or kill my family.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2041248)