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Penguin 04-21-11 11:26 AM

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“European privacy rules are crystal clear: a person’s information can only be used with their prior consent,”

Think that would still be current in the EU.
The privacy rights are only enforceable against private companies and citizens, against the state your rights are limited. One ugly example is the date retention directive:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecom...European_Union
Here is a rather interesting read about the Directive 2006/24/EC from a juristic pov: http://ejlt.org//article/view/29/75
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The Data Retention Directive clearly constitutes an interference with the fundamental rights to privacy and data protection.
"Well, my European friends, why don't you elect others then, who make sensible laws?" you may ask. There is a tiny problem with the election of the EU legislature: there is none, only for the parliament...:nope:

gimpy117 04-21-11 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1648043)

Sure, if I ever break something wrong, I'll tie my cell to a strange dog and run the other way.

I don't wanan rain on your parade...if you leave it on the I phone has a GPS tracking feature. they'll find it. Best option, Sledgehammer

joea 04-21-11 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MaddogK (Post 1648027)
Are you sure "wipe my phone" will delete that tracking file ?

Lets say you lose your phone and you remotely wipe it. The person who finds it may be pretty tech savvy and he docks it with his home PC. If the wipe feature didn't delete that file this guy now has tracking data (with time stamps) showing that you goto work at 8:30 every day, where you live, where you work, where you stop at 7:30am 5 days a week (when you drop your kids off at school).

This person shares the file with one of his buddies who likes to rob houses.

I know this scenario is far-fetched but it's far from impossible. If you're not alarmed by the possibility of this happening to you then please continue your happy journey in life.

I never said I was not alarmed so please stop with the patronising comments. All I meant was that android and blackberry owners as well as "dumbphone" owners could be tracked and that there are many other ways to find out your personal info. Once this leak is plugged another will be found. What do you suggest?

joea 04-21-11 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 1647973)
I don't have or want an iPhone.

But a lot of people do have Android, me included, and the use of many of the apps on both includes locating your location. And for years a mobile company / police can triangulate your position so I don't see the fuss - have these worried iPhone users got something to hide? :hmmm:

No I got nothing to hide, and would say the same if I had an android - do you? :stare: :D

MaddogK 04-21-11 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by joea (Post 1648151)
I never said I was not alarmed so please stop with the patronising comments. All I meant was that android and blackberry owners as well as "dumbphone" owners could be tracked and that there are many other ways to find out your personal info. Once this leak is plugged another will be found. What do you suggest?

Wasn't intending to come off as patronizing, sorry if you misunderstood.
Yes, I understand that all cell phones can be tracked, but that used to require a court order to access the providers records to generate the position of the phone. Now it's generated by the phone itself, and in the case of the Iphone stored unencrypted on the phone, copies itself to a PC when it's docked, copies itself to a different phone when the phone is upgraded. No, you cannot turn off the feature on the Iphone.

The point was never about the Gov't knowing everything about your movements, the point was about Apple gathering the info without your knowledge, not protecting the info, and hiding the release in the EULA giving them permission to use the gathered info any way they see fit.

Apparently other smartphones do this as well:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...723453610.html

FIREWALL 04-21-11 02:50 PM

Big Brother is watching me. And I sure as hell have, and will continue watching Him. :yep:

Armistead 04-21-11 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117 (Post 1648130)
I don't wanan rain on your parade...if you leave it on the I phone has a GPS tracking feature. they'll find it. Best option, Sledgehammer

They shouldn't find anything but the dog. If my phone is on a dog in one state and I'm in another and they can still track me, ****, I'll just shoot myself and deny them...

Wolfehunter 04-21-11 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1648055)
"Well, my European friends, why don't you elect others then, who make sensible laws?" you may ask. There is a tiny problem with the election of the EU legislature: there is none, only for the parliament...:nope:

Because if you vote for the other party..It won't change anything. They're all working together.. biggest scam on earth. They look out for each other making sure there comfort zone is secure. Our interests don't' apply to there agenda. So vote for group A or group C doesn't matter, its all crap.

STEED 04-22-11 04:53 AM

BURN IN HELL EU...You were saying Mr Big Brother that I can not say what I want? :O:


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