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Castout 02-02-11 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by krashkart (Post 1588862)
:hmmm:

Thanks. I needed that.


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Do you know what would become of you if this happened to you? You'll be YOURSELF! Especially with time. Yeah that's absolutely scary! Why?! because most people have no plan on what kind of person they want to become.

There was this wise person who you might know who once said: if you want to know a man give him power.
Added those since :03:

Krauter 02-02-11 01:21 AM

Absolute power breeds absolute maniacs :O:

Castout 02-02-11 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Krauter (Post 1588869)
Absolute power breeds absolute maniacs :O:

Absolutely. Well maybe not. It really depends on the person. If he had the tendency to be a maniac in the first place he will become an absolute maniac when given absolute power. But I guess a maniac most probably can't be successful enough to get himself absolute power unless it is handed to him. A maniac most probably is lacking focus on the real important things in their lives to become really successful. They are the kind of person who are probably obsessed with the trivial things.


Generally when people become themselves, truly themselves they will probably be called a creep by the people who haven't become themselves or realized their true self. A creep is a person who is so different from anybody else or an eccentric because they have developed their personality such that their experience and knowledge or skill renders them insight that other people most probably unable to realize. A creep unlike a maniac is able to focus on the things which matter and are much more likely to achieve success than a maniac I suppose.

Like this prime specimen :haha:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiCznGaex2c

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cxRm7MYLsq.../palpatine.jpg



Now actually the purpose of all education besides the transferring of skills and knowledge needed to earn a living is to make a person to realize his true self. To simply become themselves or rather to find themselves. To become a person by desires and match it with design. That should become the primary goal of a good education.
But if becoming yourself means becoming a rapist or murderer or a robber then it will mean that they are essentially a failed specimen of a person who needs help to reform. So the question we should be asking ourselves is are we who we are today largely by decisions we made or by situation that compelled us to compromise to unbecoming who we really are. Most probably if we take average people we are made unfortunately largely by situation imposed upon us rather than by decisions. People are attaching themselves too much on the things that surround their lives, be it people, objects or ideas (incl status)rather than taking the initiative to decide what kind of person they really would like to become in spite. Some call it the timid path or the safe path or even the norm. I call it being dwarfed. Because the smallest prison a person could find himself in is the confine of his thoughts and beliefs of what is possible and not. Don't ever look down on yourself. Most probably you haven't become the person you could have and still could have. . . .even . . . in your deathbed.

Mahatma Gandhi is a very good example of the person who made conscious effort to become the person he would like to become. He let his personality to shape the power that he was entrusted to and not the other way around to make the power to enslave his personality. There is no doubt in my mind that he made continuous conscious efforts to be the man that he was. A true leader because a true leader must be able to lead himself before he lead other people. To have restraint especially when there is none to restrain him. And I don't think Gandhi was the person he was because he was religious. He was religious because he felt he WAS NOT(just like Mother Teresa). No not to pretend but to genuinely seek in order to help him becoming the person he ought to be: himself. Like I mentioned another example would be Mother Teresa. Thus Gandhi was definitely a creep as was Mother Teresa.

How about the likes of Hitler? Such is the perfect example of the kind of people who never planned what kind of person they would like to become or were victims themselves who never saw help. They never did or never bothered to plan or unable to due to past trauma that fixated them. They simply let things flow and let their desires take over detached from morality and conscience. And such is the consequence of being ignorant both to himself and to many other people whose lives they ruined. I don't believe people to actually able to plan to be evil. Ask any child if they want to become an evil person. Of course they would answer no.

krashkart 02-02-11 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Krauter (Post 1588869)
Absolute power breeds absolute maniacs :O:

I'm perfect for the job! :salute:

Wait... will there be croissants? :hmmm:

TLAM Strike 02-02-11 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Krauter (Post 1588838)
That would be it thanks for the acronym Oh king of acronyms TLAM :D

I'm curious, are you basing your 'might join' probability on how well the nations might fare in a conflict? After a few reads on the current Libyan clown, I doubt he cares if he wins or loses but would rather show how 'great' the Libyan military and nation is..

Do you think that, if Iran were to enter the fray, would NK (being somewhat of a 'nuclear' ally) provide help or resources? What about China?

Yea I'm basing it mostly on who would be a threat. If Jordan or Sudan entered the war it would not add much to the Red Force side aside from some troops.

Countries who I consider greater threats but unlikely to get directly involved are Turkey and Saudi. At that point they would be burning their bridges with the west and its quite possible that American involvement would follow, which would be approaching a WWIII type situation.

Algeria I would put up as a possible threat but their only real trump card is pair of Project 877 Kilos. Which would be a major asset if the Red Force tried to close the med.

I doubt North Korea would get involved much. They have little to gain in such a situation, they are an ally to such states because they are the only people who would buy their arms.

I doubt China would get involved, weak Arab/Muslim states are to their advantage. Any sort of Pan-Arab union would provide "collective bargaining" power leverage against China.

Type941 02-02-11 01:56 PM

I thought IDF has some 200 nukes and if pushed it's gonna use them. The Suez thing though is a worry with all that oil nicely flowing through. I wonder who gains from this. :yeah::nope:

Takeda Shingen 02-02-11 03:41 PM

War between Egypt and anybody isn't likely to happen anytime soon. The nation is going to be struggling to get it's act together for the forseeable future.

MH 02-02-11 04:34 PM

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