:yep: A low, hard kick is always good. Difficult to see coming if someone is concentrating on defending the face and upper body. The knee is also a great target, whether you bust it or just buckle it enough to drop your opponent.

Nope, wasn't referring to learning how it "was back then" - just that we are trained for combat, not competition. What we're taught is taught as something to be used for defense of self and others, whenever and wherever hand-to-hand fighting is necessary for that purpose. Not as ways to earn points in a tournament. We're taught to fight as "dirty" as need be to defend our lives and bodies from harm... nothing sporting about it. :D

Fighting fair is all well and good, but I am going to gouge an eye out in a serious fight if the oportunity presents itself. If hte situation is serious the best kind of fight you can have is one that is over quickly.

Bookmarked for future reference. Danke! :yeah:

I still remember my dad showing me some of the hand-to-hand stuff he learned in the army. The one I recall most vividly was the one he emphasized, probably because it was something anybody, including me, could do fairly easily - the hard open-palm strike straight to the face, preferably the nose.

It was also one of the first strikes I learned when I took up martial arts, and it's still one of my favorites... altho I'll probably always prefer jamming my elbow in there if at all possible.

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That one never gets old.

Kinda sounds like a Blood sport. :rock:

God created man, Samuale Colt made them = I don't care how bad you think you are, if you are stareing down a barrel of a 45 hope you have some extra underware.

This is true, and it doesn't have to be a .45. I can tell you from personal experience that when a .22 is pointed at you the barrel diameter is somewhere in the area of two feet.

On the subject of when and where to kick in a fight, I always liked Robert Heinlein's three rules of unarmed combat:

1. Hit first.
2. Hit hard.
3. Hit dirty.