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Originally Posted by razark
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If that's the case I think it is, the problem wasn't that she was wearing a cross and the offense it would cause. The problem was her disobeying the rule against wearing of necklaces. It wasn't a ban on crosses, it was a ban on all necklaces.
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"All necklaces" only because stating that they ban crucifix necklaces would have gotten them fire earlier on! ;) It was to avoid a public row over banning the symbol in question. If I remember it correctly it had to do saomethign with the destinations (in Mulsim countries) this ariline used to fly to very often.
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Originally Posted by TLAM
Obviously you don't watch enough internet porn. I'm sure Dowly could provide you with links to plenty of Burkha Porn. (It does exist)... :O:
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Okay, I leave this to the specialists. :shucks: To me, bunnies have a dresscode that does not include burkhas - or much of anything else. :DL
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Originally Posted by TLAM
Strange I have to agree with Tribesman. My grandmother wore a headscarf like thing- she was just from Ukraine. No one had a problem with it.
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One can argue whether or not Islam has a rule that says women must wear headscarf, nikhabs or burkhas . Can one? The Quran says clearly that women should mantle themselves. That was because muhammad was pissed to see foreign men staring at women who crouched behind bushes to follow the call of nature. So, there is indeed a scriptorial condensate and a historic reason for the argument that it is indeed an islamic commandement that women should bei veiled. However, Russian women and headscarves. Well,russians do not issue a poltical message and do not communicate the defence of a ceratin ideology when wearing headscarves. Muslim women do. The headscarf in islam is a poltical symbol, like the Palestinian keffiyeh also is not just a scarf like an yother, but is a symbol today, putting this typical textile with it'S unmistakalble pattern into an expression fo sympoathy for a certain ideological context and cause. Or the AK-47 when serving as symbols in flags or insignias - it then is not just any rifle like any other, that in principle could also mean a hunbting rifle, but the silhouette of the AK_47 is a poltical symbol in itself nowadays. That'S why you find it probably esclsuoevly only in leftist symbolical cointexts, but never in rightist symbolical contexts. The islamic veil, headscarf, burkha, must be understood as a poltical statement . And that is why we must fight against oit and should not tolerate it. Like that is the reason why islam pushes the demand for tolerating this symbol so masisvely. In turkey, the fundamentalist AKP has deleted a law by attaturk that women wanting to go to university, were perfectly allowoed to do so, but then were porhibited to wear headscarves. Attaturk anted to prevent relgious radicals gaining access and influence to public institutions and oublic education that way. No wonder then that the AKP and Erdoghan have abandoned this law then.
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It sounds like she's doing this just to incite. I don't think that will do her court case any favors.
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As I said - check the nature of the Muslim powergroup in the background. In Germany, the vast majority of Muslim cases that are overwhelij ng the courts, are not pushed by private people, but private people get approached by Muslim powergroups to allow serving as the excuse to laucnh another siege of the courts in order to exhaust public resistance to Islam by waging kind of a war of attrition against it. What must be criticised is that the silent majority, the oh so moderate oh so westwern.-value-compliant "moderate Muslims" allow this, and do not stand up against these stelth djihadis, and do allow them to speak and act in their name and define the official position of islam in their name. That is the reason why I do not save them from holding them responsible for their passivity and acceptance of the socalled radicals.
Printing the silhouette of an AK47 on flags, letters and into insignias, is a political message, not an opinion on sports shooting. Wearing a Palestnian keffiyeh does not comopare to wear just any other scarf, but also is expressing a poltical statement. And islamic headscarves and veils also are a poltical statement - in the name of an ideology that is hostile to our values, freedoms and the constitutional order of our home states.