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Snestorm 06-28-10 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1429879)
Isn't it supreme irony when two Jewish members from a country that is highly dependant on immigration and has been since its first proposal are having a laugh with a real anti immigrant who has this thing about racial purity of the supreme nordic aryan race and the threat impurity of blood poses to the blond haired blue eyed people.

BTW Demitiri you were called the worst enemy of your own state because you support views that even the head of Mossad says are harmful to the state.

You realy are at a loss when people's actions don't fit into your preconcieved picturebook, aren't you?

Just for the record, I consider myself scandinavian, not "aryan".

I believe that people have a right to their own homeland.
(Can you see some common ground here, Tribesman?)

Skybird 06-28-10 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MH (Post 1429986)
Enemy of my enemy is my friend

Not alway. Sometimes the enemy of my enemy - still is my enemy as well. The US foreign policy lives a lot by your assumption, especially in the Middle and Far East. And it has screwed up so often that one can ask if there even is any realistic middle east policy in the state departement that is worth the name. US middle east policy is at least as dilletantic and shortsighted as is the European middle east policy - and considering the infantility of the EU, that description really means something.

Tribesman 06-28-10 03:36 PM

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Just for the record, I consider myself scandinavian, not "aryan".
So is that the blond haired blue eyed nordic race which was used interchangably with aryan by the nazis and neo-nazis or do you include thishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Saami_Family_1900.jpg scandanavian group as your blond haired blue eyed people who would be being murdered in an act of genocide by any dilution of their bloodline.

Snestorm 06-28-10 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1430174)
So is that the blond haired blue eyed nordic race which was used interchangably with aryan by the nazis and neo-nazis or do you include thishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Saami_Family_1900.jpg scandanavian group as your blond haired blue eyed people who would be being murdered in an act of genocide by any dilution of their bloodline.

"The Nordic Countries" does include Finland.
"The Scandinavian Countries" does not include Finland.
Neither terminology includes Germany, so I don't know where this "aryan" concept comes from.

Tribesman 06-28-10 04:14 PM

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"The Nordic Countries" does include Finland.
"The Scandinavian Countries" does not include Finland.
Ain't it lucky that the photo shows a norwegian Sami family then which puts your Finland thing into irrelevance:har:

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Neither terminology includes Germany, so I don't know where this "aryan" concept comes from.
Perhaps that explains that despite spouting out concepts from a rather twisted 1930s ideology you can't actually see what it is you are saying.
Can you work through the etymology of the word "nordic"?

AngusJS 06-28-10 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MH (Post 1429568)
Why whats wrong with that picture?:D



http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X134...or-paranoia%2F


There are about 13 million Muslims in the EU...out of a total population of about 500 million.

They constitute 2.6 % of the population! Run for the hills!

Anyway, who cares where immigrants are from or what they think about their new country?

Skybird 06-28-10 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AngusJS (Post 1430207)
There are about 13 million Muslims in the EU...out of a total population of about 500 million.

They constitute 2.6 % of the population! Run for the hills!

Check birthrates.

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Anyway, who cares where immigrants are from or what they think about their new country?
You certainly don't.

Again,
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=171110

AngusJS 06-28-10 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1430216)
Check birthrates.

Birthrates seem to be declining among immigrants.

http://www.prb.org/Articles/2008/mus...urope.aspx?p=1

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You certainly don't.
Ok, why should anyone care? As long as they're law-abiding, why should anyone care how immigrants feel about their new country or which religion they subscribe to?

Snestorm 06-28-10 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1430204)
Ain't it lucky that the photo shows a norwegian Sami family then which puts your Finland thing into irrelevance:har:


Perhaps that explains that despite spouting out concepts from a rather twisted 1930s ideology you can't actually see what it is you are saying.
Can you work through the etymology of the word "nordic"?

The sami people have been where they are as long as we've been where we are.
Sorry but, I neither see them as a threat to our existance, nor we as a threat to theirs.
The rapid shift in demographics, and the colonization of our countries from outside Europe, I do see as a threat.

MH 06-28-10 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1430061)
Thats easy
Well for starters not all Israelis are Jewish and not all Jews are Israelis, so Israel is just a country with its own individual policies and actions.
So when you want to criticise arabs which arabs do you mean and which policies from which countries, or which particular religion of arabs are you on about?
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Im about Muslims for most part.
Christian Israeli Palestinians somehow assimilate themselves much better into Israeli society than Muslims.
They still call themselves Arabs/Palestinians but have much less ideological/mental problems to be Israeli.
Israel is like a small lab where you can see how all kind of different religions mix together and how they interact and Islam is the troublesome.

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1430061)
As for "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" line, what utter tripe.
For example take Americas foriegn policy as a measure over the past 70 year, how many dozens of times has that line turned round and humiliatingly bitten them in the arse.

Please...it just poped to my mind:DL.

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1430061)
I just found it funny that Dimitri and yourself appear in agreement with someone who believes any dilution of pure nordic bloodstock amounts to genocide and that people contaminated with any cross breeding must be expelled, which seems rather like a political theory from 1930s germany.
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I did not get this kind impression from any one in this thread.
Maybe you try too hard to read between the lines or i missed something.

Schroeder 06-28-10 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AngusJS (Post 1430228)
Birthrates seem to be declining among immigrants.

http://www.prb.org/Articles/2008/mus...urope.aspx?p=1

Well, having one child more per woman than the rest still causes a shift in the overall population.

I also love this little thing:
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The gap narrowed even further in the former West Germany, where the authors relied on data by mother's nationality rather than religion
Isn't that nice? So if a Muslim woman is native German her birth rate will be counted to the German side which of course then closes the gap between not native German Muslims and "all the rest" (with plenty of Muslims with a German passport). That's a way to make a statistic look nice.

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Ok, why should anyone care? As long as they're law-abiding, why should anyone care how immigrants feel about their new country or which religion they subscribe to?
And if some of them openly declare war on your values and way of life? And what if this certain group is known to cause more criminals as any other ethnicity in your country? There has just been a nice report here from our police that finally gave some inside into criminal behaviour and religion. The more devout male Muslim juveniles were the more likely they became violent. They were also way more often violent than any other ethnic group in Germany.
Would you just want to sit back and see what will happen in the future, or would you want to keep a close eye on that and do something (non violent) about it?

Tribesman 06-28-10 06:11 PM

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I did not get this kind impression from any one in this thread.
Maybe you try too hard to read between the lines or i missed something.
Thats because it relates to what they have written before about cross breeding the nordic race being the same as murder.It resulted in a moderator writing
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Anyhow I would advise people to tread carefully when it comes to expressing concepts of genetic (racial) purity and other such stuff. We don't take too kindly to that sort of talk round these here parts


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Check birthrates.
Bingo, Skybirds demographic timebomb. :har::har::har::har::har:
Please post that demographics video again, its hilarious.

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The sami people have been where they are as long as we've been where we are.
So can they have their own homeland too, after all everyone needs their own livingroom. Come to think of it as the Sami are indigenous and the north germanic tribes are the immigrants shouldn't they get all the land as their homeland

Dimitrius07 06-28-10 06:25 PM

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BTW Demitiri you were called the worst enemy of your own state because you support views that even the head of Mossad says are harmful to the state.
:nope:
What kind of views and what kind of harm? I attacked a person because he is shaking his hand with Iranian president who want my country,America and everything non Islamic destroyed. It seems to me that you simply don`t like what i `am saying so you making our own versions. Big surprise!! :woot:. While we at it i never supported genocide in any form towards ANY nation and i never support other with that kind of views, from you however i hear the issue of race almost every time. Self conviction is a strong argument, especially if someone don`t follow your way :yeah:. Very low and pathetic way to draw attention to something else if you ask me.

Tribesman 06-29-10 12:29 AM

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What kind of views and what kind of harm?
You support policies and actions that are harmful to the State. After all Dagan said to the Knesset that the policies and actions are making Israel a liability to its supporters and Israel is stuffed without its continued outside support.
BTW do you think Dagan is not getting his job term extended again because of the murder fiasco in dubai?

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I attacked a person ......
You attacked a Jewish person and called them an anti-semite, same as you did with the Jewish South African over Gaza, its a common pattern when someone equates any criitcism of Israel as anti semitic that they go on to call any Jews who hold different views as being somehow anti-semites.

Snestorm 06-29-10 01:42 AM

@Tribesman post # 42

This is what the moderator wrote, in closing HIS statement.:

"Cultural evolution is an ongoing process of change and even extinction. The culture a society has now is not the same as 10 years ago, or 100 years ago, and so on. Change is inevitable, and cultures have been mixing, blending, and disappearing since the start of society. Trying to protect it is in a sense pointless as it is ever changing even without outside influences. Also this is survival of the fittest, the strongest culture is the one that survives in the end.

Also for the record, race does not exist according to genetics or scientific theory. None of the so called races posses unique genetic traits, all races have variations where some genes may be more dominant then others. All 'races' possess the physical features of all the other 'races', you can have dark skinned 'white' people, Asians with Caucasian features, and all with out intermixing of genetic data. We assign race to people because of trends in very superficial physical characteristics in the overall demographics.

One of the ironies of the holocaust was that the Nazi's were often putting to death people that more perfectly represented the physical ideals of the so called Aryan race then the vast majority of the German populace. Yet their ideology was based very much on physical traits associated with 'racial purity'.

Lastly no matter how you try to slice it, intermarriage and breeding is not ethnic cleansing. The two are practically polar opposites. One is a blending of genetic code (often with some cultural blending in the family unit), the other is the elimination of a group (which may not even be genetically different) typically by practices of genocide (mass murder, sterilization, etc).

Anyhow I would advise people to tread carefully when it comes to expressing concepts of genetic (racial) purity and other such stuff. We don't take too kindly to that sort of talk round these here parts"

Quote is from NeonSamuria. Post # 215.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...161058&page=15

As can be seen, it was not aimed at any particular individual.

The relative parts of the discussion start at the top of page 12.

Tribesman doesn't like to see people exert themselves with "small" details.


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