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Max2147 07-21-09 09:31 AM

If you can't quantify or back up your claim, you probably shouldn't make the claim in the first place.

SteamWake 07-21-09 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl (Post 1137839)
Well at least you're being honest in saying that you make unsubstantiated claims, I guess that a plus for you.
But, given that the US per capita emissions are in the top 10 highest it's safe to say that no matter the level of regulations (that you don't know about), it's not that tight.

LOL indeed in the top ten... number 10 in fact ! But this cuts off at 2004 :doh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ons_per_capita

Someone needs to get on Qatar's case :rotfl:

Hey look Canada beat us !

Number 10 for the largest industrialized nation on earth is pretty good I would think.

SteamWake 07-21-09 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl (Post 1137855)
It's "per capita", it has nothing to do with the size of a nation. Your emissions are twice as high as those of the UK or Germany, and 3 times higher than those of Italy Spain and France. Now you can always take the worse as a reference and say "we're not that bad", but anyway your claims aren't better off.

Last time I checked the US has a few more citizens that the UK or Germany. Sorry I dont have a link to substantiate that but again I believe it to be true.

Furthermore I do believe the industrial output in the US is a good deal greater than the mentioned EU countrys at least for the time being. Im pretty sure thats factual as well.

I did note the abscence of chunks of data from a 'comprable' nation such as Russia. Also again I noticed it cuts off at 2004, why?

Max2147 07-21-09 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1137869)
Last time I checked the US has a few more citizens that the UK or Germany. Sorry I dont have a link to substantiate that but again I believe it to be true.

Furthermore I do believe the industrial output in the US is a good deal greater than the mentioned EU countrys at least for the time being. Im pretty sure thats factual as well.

I did note the abscence of chunks of data from a 'comprable' nation such as Russia. Also again I noticed it cuts off at 2004, why?

Russia is on there, down in 30th place. Their number is about half of ours. China is in 91st place, with a number less than 20% of ours.

SteamWake 07-21-09 10:41 AM

Ah I see what they did now Russia has been 'split' in two one for russia and another for the soviet union. Isnt that cute :rotfl:

Max2147 07-21-09 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1137883)
Ah I see what they did now Russia has been 'split' in two one for russia and another for the soviet union. Isnt that cute :rotfl:

What does that have to do with the data?

SteamWake 07-21-09 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Max2147 (Post 1137887)
What does that have to do with the data?

Well it put the soviet union in last place. Might say it skewed it a tad :03:

Letum 07-21-09 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1137830)
I stand by my claim that United States take more steps, spend more money, have more regulations regarding emission standards than any other nation on earth.

[...]

Sorry I cant 'prove' my claims, even more curious that no one can disprove them.

I can disprove them if I stick to your standards.

In May 2008 over 8.3 billion scientists agreed at a 2 day summit in
Luxembourg that the USA did not have the world's tightest emission
controls.

Sorry I cant 'prove' my claims, even more curious that no one can
disprove them.

SteamWake 07-21-09 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum (Post 1137899)
I can disprove them if I stick to your standards.

In May 2008 over 8.3 billion scientists agreed at a 2 day summit in
Luxembourg that the USA did not have the world's tightest emission
controls.

Sorry I cant 'prove' my claims, even more curious that no one can
disprove them.

Linkage ? :rotfl:

8.3 billion might be a tad excessive.

Max2147 07-21-09 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1137890)
Well it put the soviet union in last place. Might say it skewed it a tad :03:

The USSR isn't in last. It's at the bottom because it's not part of the ranking, since it's not a state anymore.

If you sort it by 1990 numbers (when the USSR was still a state) it comes in about 20th. Its 1990 number (12.8) is still well behind the USA's 1990 number (18.9).


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