Everyone is right,UBI will will just tell you to stuff it and quit making sub simes etc...:nope:

Worst idea in the world. First what are the damages? UBI would only be liable for the $50 each person spent. And I doubt a jury will award money for pain and suffering for a video game. If you are that displeased with the game call UBI and have them refund your money return the game. Second say good by to any future SH X or Sub Sim for that reason. The Sim market is small market and when profits drop developers will apply their resources to more profitable shooters and adventure games.

I agree a product should be finished when it is released. But if it comes down to have a buggy SH 4 that can be modded in to something amazing vs no game at all I'll take the buggy one.

Now come on, be fair. The reason your health insurance is unbelievable is because the American electorate keep on electing greedy imbecilies to the White House.

That comment shows a complete lack of understanding of how the law works. Laws are made by congresses, not presidents; and while the current president has a lot of flaws, health insurance rates have nothing to do with him at all.

I was wondering how long it would take.

Sorry, but I had to respond to that. Well, not had to, actually; it was a deep internal need.:rotfl:

Its Friday afternoon and I'm bored so I'll pursue this further.

Wasn't one of Bush's original election pledges to sort out Medicare? Isn't he the most powerful political figure in America (excluding Cheney obviously)? How can your lack of a welfare state have nothing to do with him?

"Hey! You got your General Topics forum in my Silent Hunter 4 forum!"

"No, you got your Silent Hunter 4 forum in my General Topics forum!"

:rotfl:

Thanks for all your replies, they make interesting reading.

The general concensus then is that a class action suit would not be a good idea because it would not actually fix the game and may cause UBI to stop making sub sims altogether.

I'd have to say I pretty much agree, though it does leave a bad taste to have to accept a shoddy product in the hope that there will be more. Still, c'est la vie as they say in Stockholm.

Just one more thing though, I was quite suprised by some of the blunt replies by more seasoned skippers in this community. It might be better for the community if you used a more engaging language....just a thought.

Anyway, interesting debate all the same....happy Friday:yep:

that wont work.

But we are custemers and if you want to show ubi that throwing out an unfinished and untested game to the market is not good just stop buying their products. For myself ive learned my lesson. SH3 was badly bugged from the beginning and some parts are still broken. SH4 is even worse and i doubt it will ever be fixed.

So for my part i wont buy another ubisoft product at least for the first 6 months after release. Even if it is SH5 i will wait next time, first i will see how much its broken. Remember our money is our weapon.

Even if it means that ubi will stop making sub sims. Ive played the game for the first week and since then im still waiting ubi to fix it. Ive paid money for one week of frustration i dont want another sub sim like that realy.

Lawsuit.....Pitiful idea...at best.

I sincerely believe that members of UBI frequent this forum to gain a better understanding of whats right and whats no right about thier product. And, I would not be surprised if the very mentioning of litigation by some towards UBI isn't enough for them to cease any improvements they maybe considering or in the middle of completing.

SIDE NOTE: When I purchased this game the people at EB informed me that they (EB) where weighing thier options on whether to continue selling PC based games in the future since the majority of the gamming community is switching to console games for entertaiment. (nternet purchases not with standing)

Now having mentioned this, IMO class action lawsuites against the few companies still producing PC based games might help thier decision process in a way that would negatively impact PC gammers.

Ubisoft was sued for $5 million over use of Starforce in SH3 and other games in a class-action format. Didn't stop SH4 production decisions.

This running about in fear for SH5 is ridiculous. After the SH4 debacle it's very unlikely, but even so the business decision is just that. Anything said here either way isn't more than a fart in a whirlwind.

Google on "class action lawsuit PC games". You'll get thousands of hits. There have been many, MANY class action suits over the years and they continue today.

Um, no it's the greedy imbeciles (mostly ex-lawyers) in the House and Senate that pass laws that regulate the crap out of anyone that can't get offshore or go international... and the idiots that keep sending them back.

I think this article makes very interesting reading on the subject...it was written in 1998 and, well, here we are!

http://archive.salon.com/21st/featur...9feature2.html

Mods should lock and delete this nonsense thread like NOW!! :nope:

Even if no new patch ever gets done for SH4 it would still be among the best 3 games released this year (so far at least)

You guys are nuts. :huh: