Maybe it's a face saving way for them to back off because I can't see how Alphabet can do anything without the Ayatollahs blessing therefor if he is publicly rumbling it's a face saving way for the Ayatollah to back down.
Or,
It's just my cynical way of looking at things. :)

Now that's just plain funny, Alphabet ... :lol:

I can't spell his name either ...

But what if the Ayatollah's learned from Saddam's mistake ... makes Iraqy Freedom not in vain ... Didn't Saddam try to surrender right before we crossed over the line of no return ...?

This is telling about the psychology that is being dealt with.

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Lying for Allah is okay, according to the eminent Islamic scholar Imam Ghazali, who wrote: " When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible " (Ref: Ahmad Ibn Naqib al-Misri, The Reliance of the Traveller, translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller , Amana publications, 1997, section r8.2, page 745). Imam Ghazali does not say this without knowledge. He is basing his fatwa on the words and examples of the Prophet himself. In one hadith we read that the prophet calls upon his followers to assassinate Ka’b ibn Ashraf, the chief of a Jewish tribe who was wary of Muhammad and tells them it is okay to tell a lie to deceive him. Bukhari, Volume 5, #369 The fact is that Muslims feel no pang of conscience to lie if that lie is said for Allah’s sake and his religion. If the lie is said for a good cause it is okay.

Yea don't miss the bigger picture...even if Iran says ...ooo OK OK..we'll stop...who's gonna believe that...yea right ...the hole has been dug already...just waiting for someone to kick in the dirt now...damn people are slow.Unless they roll over and let us scratch they're bellies then not a resaonable soul on earth should believe that they're ways have changed...kinda like another country huh?

An excellent point. Even thiough it appears that an assault on Iran is not immenint I do belive however it will happen relativly soon (within decade) Also i belive if we are to attack we whould do it before they can use nukes.

Obviously.

Maybe it's the grogginess of not having my first cup of coffee this afternoon, but I don't quite understand your point. You seem to be picking apart everyone's words in such a way that you can't understand their real meaning because of your analysis of them. You know very well that we aren't talking about weather. The situations are detailed by the subject other comments in this thread. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here, other than that you possess the ability to spin words around in an attempt at sounding relevant.

Does the comparison between Iran and Germany have some validity? I think it does. Some things are different, some things are similar. Just because you aren't able to figure out exactly what other people are talking about doesn't make them wrong.

That's exactly my point. If you take somebody's post out of context and consider it in itself, out the window goes the chance of understanding what the author meant and down you go to the road that leads nowhere.

This is precisely my point. You've managed to express with 19 words what took me a hundred.

I re-read my post and it doesn't really come across the way I intended. It sounds a bit insulting, and that wasn't my intention, so I appologize for that.

No problem. :up: You are the second one here giving me the impression that perhaps I should emphasize my conclusions a bit more instead of leaving them in the air like a damn puzzle that needs to be arranged.

Note to self: emphasize conclusions. Leave no ambiguity. Trim all edges. Fill in every hole. Clearness is my friend.

One could only hope for an inside job but I wouldn't depend upon it.