As a moderator myself, I often wonder if it might be fun to tone down such ad-hominem attacks so that they appear comical. I might try that - say changing 'nazis' into 'nice guys', or just editing out all such sophistries. It might be fun. I'll have to try that. Of course the chance rarely comes up on my forums - it only ever seems to be the forums that I don't moderate that attract the trolls. :down:

This is from 'Ossi', as of today'

Soundmod by Incognito Soundworks, with further mods by Northern Digital

Contact Mod by Fletcher

Hi-res subs by Sean Gilleran

U-boat Interior by Ship Hunter

DD Fix by Jungman

Radiolog by Irishred, further mods by CombatPlanes

Resupply by SANSAL

I think this his will be the final . '


Please note that he's only 'thinking' that the list above is the complete one - he also warns that the 'trial version' on the open server contained 'a very dangerous Virus' and that 'we had to close the server because of that virus'.

:rotfl:

Forget Wolfie, he's merely a distraction.

Back to the issue at hand, terrapin, are you unable to reveal which new mods they are adding?

Edit: obviously not, thanks for list.

Also, I've heard the campaign layer of seewolves is severely lacking and badly built. Apparently the promised number of new bases is not there and many things are not integrated properly.

I have heard it looks amaturish and incomplete. The dunkirk evac is missing, dodgy D-Day stuff (evolve from entry date not used), No waypoints for most..

It sounds a mess, I'll have to look at it myself...:)

Frugal (http://frugalsworld.com) once had a script turning bad words completely upside down...it was REALLY funny
:)

Yeah, right. Let me give a quick translation of that bit:

Radiolog by Irishred. Further mods by Irishred, but we agreed not to use them, so we'll just say they're ours.

This is the reality. If they don't get permission for something they want, they just take it anyway and claim it's their own work.

My intention in this was to help find resolution and give other ways to look at this for the benefit of this group, not X-1.

In spite of the fact I have been labeled many derogatory things for not towing the party line, I felt it was important to maintain a different point.

I no longer feel my attempt at a dissenting voice is constructive. It is not welcomed and resented such that one must either be of this mob mentality or be its enemy.

I do not see how my involvement will bring any positive resolution and only feed the frenzy.

I have never contended X-1 was not wrong, ever. But, I just can’t see why that is such a good reason to do so much harm to the SH3 community.

My opinion has clearly been rejected and there is an insistence of conformity such that those that may mean well are then attacked as the enemy, a member of X-1, a troll. That is clearly an indication that view or person, or both are not wanted and I am withdrawing from this discussion as I feel my absence will promote better harmony so this rally can be of the same voice. You have every right to insist on this and I respect that right.

Hawker, I never cared about what X-1 was doing. It was the self destructive response that was more troubling. The modders should have demanded action, I just feel they have done more harm with their reaction than X-1 did by their actions. Just my opinion, obviously I must be mistaken.

Now I must ask in sincere curiosity as I have been scratching my head in wonder. With all the derogatory things people have said, how is this joke a thing to be drawn attention too?
I am really missing your logic, but seem to be missing many points on this.

Wulfmann

Yes, I have allowed the lite version of radiolog to be used, and only that version, I have not given permission for any parts of the heavy version to be used, as per the readme clause. As for the dangerous virus, I suppose that was responsible for the porn links.

ok irish.. respect your decision either way,

What is the DD fix? Is that Jungman's sonar fix for AI sensors??

Anyway, thats a pretty small list now. But as they have been persistantly dishonest with us, I simply cannot trust it being a complete list.

I think so...

:rotfl: :rotfl:

If you dont own the game (per one of your long winded posts before), why do you care what happens with X1 and the sub mod community?

If you want to play the devils advocate, try Dr Phil.

Whew I thought for sure there was gonna be a knock down


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/oleman/Fight.gif

There for awhile.


Bye Wulfie :cry:

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Yawn.

Not a comparison I made or was striving for.

Who? There is no one who speaks 'for' the community. Each mod maker is responsible for his own work, or at least for speaking out in its defense if it appears to be included without permission.

Yes, hopefully some of them have been successful in dissuading Matrxigames from perpetuating this scam.

No damage has been done. Truth has been served.

I never made any sermons, although you seem to be keen on them.

I simply laid out the evidence as I have seen it.

Feel free to come up with a different hypothesis based upon your own investigation.

Or keep crying foul. Your argument is a strawman, plain and simple.

Wulfmann wrote:
I think if you were a creator and/or user of mods within this community, you'd care about BOTH :o

Hawkers :up: