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I don't think it matters at all since the only conclusion that would have prevented rioting would have been charges pressed.
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But they could have taken away one bit of ammunition which has been used against it...but then again, admittedly something else would be found. Still, this was inevitable, nothing to do now but wait for it to blow itself out until the next one, and the one after that and the one after that. |
I took the time to read over 30 witness statements and this is my conclusion.
Cop pulls up, tells Brown to get out of the road, Brown refuses, exchanging insults. Cop pulls back, opens door, Brown shoves it shut and attacks officer through the window and the officer shot hitting Brown once or twice. Brown runs off and was chased by the cop, keeping distance. Brown realized he was hit, turns towards Wilson who is yelling hands up and Brown slightly raises his hand as if to look where he had been shot or to see if blood was on his hands, not over his head. Brown being shot, starts walking back towards the cop, now holding his hands near his stomach, not being armed, obviously holding his wound. The cop is yelling "get down, hands up, get down" and numerous commands for Brown to stop, but Brown doesn't. Wilson fires more shots striking Brown and seriously wounds him. The cop continues to yell commands as Brown is now coming forward, probably in shock and more leaning over. I think he moved forward faster, as if one would unable to control their body falling, but trying to stay up. As he was now moving forward more leaning over, the cop fired more shots hitting him in the head ...killing him. IMO, Brown turned back being shot and was now in fear, maybe shock, physical and emotional. He wasn't following orders, but I think trying to walk back to the cop because he was trying to give up, but not reacting mentally correctly. I could never understood why someone would charge a cop with no weapon, knowing he was gonna shoot and kill you. Brown unable or not thinking, wouldn't or couldn't follow directions. I think the last set of shots to the head was probably an overreaction of the cop. Brown was simply leaning over due to his wounds and now staggering faster on his feet toward the cop. Had the cop not fired the last rounds, Brown would've went down anyway in a few more seconds. Is the cop liable...Really, a tough call. Fact one, Brown did seriously attack him in his car. My guess is when the cop pulled his gun, Brown went for the gun either to kill the cop or to stop the cop from shooting him and both were fighting for their life. Certainly, after this, the cop in fear for his life, following training, all happening in seconds, perceived Brown as a threat when he would not get down and shot him more. The cop had to be in mental stress as well. Had Brown simply followed the cops first orders and not attacked the cop, none of this would've happened. My guess is, Brown, just involved in robbery didn't want to go to jail. Ending, I think Brown was trying to give up, but couldn't obey commands and kept coming forward. I think the cop was in reasonable fear and legally was within his rights, but probably over reacted due to the previous events and attack. Having watched numerous police shootings on Youtube, here is the problem I see....cop shoots criminal, cops yell commands such as "hands up", but wounded criminal is unable physically/mentally to comply correctly or timely, so cop keeps unloading until criminal is no longer moving... Certainly, crime doesn't pay... |
I think that's a fairly well rounded estimation of events. Let's face it, being shot doesn't exactly do much for your cohesion. :yep:
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Course, that was in my younger more foolish days.... |
Looks like its gonna be another "fun" night in Ferguson...
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Car plows through protesters blocking road. Notice at the beginning protesters got on hood, blocked drivers view....Can't say I blame the driver for taking off being attacked..... http://myfox8.com/2014/11/25/video-s...un-over-woman/ |
Frankly, i do not know what to make of it. Human behaviour is sometimes strange, and not logical, epecially in dire situations.
However, if someone wants to become a cop here in this country, he has to demonstrate that he can remain cool in tense situations and be able to fight his own fear (if he fails this he won't become one, or will lose the job), because this is what is demanded from him, and what makes him a cop. No doubt the black acted like a thug and the cop was in fear, but ... six. shots. Really. |
Nobody should ever dare again to tell me - like happened in the past - that the racism problem in American society is a solved issue, because they signed some bill and put a stamp under the text. The tension that spark the flames now - justified or not, I have no opionion on that trial - prove the opposite.
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Besides from what I hear cops in the US only get 6 months of training before they are let lose on the public (don't know anymore where I read that and it might vary between states, counties etc..). Over here they get 2,5 years for the medium ranks and 3 years for the higher ranks... |
Well, at least it was a less pyromaniacal night in Ferguson. A few broken windows, some bottles thrown and a cop car bought it, but nothing like the night before.
On the other hand you can't keep 2,200 National Guardsmen on the front line forever. :D |
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I grew up with numerous black friends in the south back in the 60's and 70's as a kid. They were basically rural country folk like most of us. Certainly I grew up amongst a generation of racist white adults in my life and it rubs off. Heck, most the baptist churches in my youth taught blacks were the cursed race of Ham in the bible, not that we all evolved out of Africa. I knew one pastor that believed when Cain found his mate, it was an ape and that was where the black race came from.....yes, this was the general ignorant thinking of many.... The white race is certainly the cause of many problems in history concerning racism. I think the big mistake was the many social programs that enslaved people to govt, but that was the offer of the day and blacks in mass took it. We were not beyond racism to give equality in education, jobs, etc.....These programs destroyed the black family unit, created ghettos in the inner cities, etc....and it became a generational mindset. Things have changed today, all the tools are there for any color to succeed, but the mindset is gone as a whole to do so... I think I posted it earlier, but I think Charles Barkley is hitting on something that blacks must deal with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOIGk-xbvOM Cultural melting pots can be a good, but a dangerous thing |
If I ever find myself getting too nostalgic for the good ole days I find I can temper the feeling with pictures like these...
https://anirishmanabroad.files.wordp...8f59b2bf_z.jpg Of course the racism is still out there....it's just not as above board as this. https://anirishmanabroad.files.wordp...ries.jpg?w=650 https://anirishmanabroad.files.wordp..._500.jpg?w=490 https://anirishmanabroad.files.wordp...tore.jpg?w=441 |
I have a question, based on the facts of the case what makes this an issue of race?
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