Sure, have fun!

Yes, I wrestled with that one myself. I wish I had included Leonard's involvement in WM, since that was slapped down. But it was late and I wasn't really involved in the community when that took place. Ah well.

Always time for revisist history. ;)

From Matrixgames own forum:
And here's what one of the posters there had to say:
BTW, for you IL-2 FB/PA players out there, have you checked out X1's "Banzai" expansion? I'm curious as to the content of that expansion. Did they actually provide any good material? And was there evidence they "borrowed" mods there, too...?

As for the "Banzai" add-on, I'm not so sure they had 'borrowed' to put it nicely :P any mods from the community. But it definately was not as popular as the other 3rd party add-ons like "Fall Blau" and Battle over Europe.

It does say it has over 100+ maybe even more skins included, and I'm quite sure that if they did take some of those without notifying the IL-2 community, there would be 500 posts in SimHQ about it.

jasonb885, I salute you.:()1:

Great detective work!

Nice chronology Jason and very helpful. I noticed the direct reply from X-1 when I emailed their contact and asked for clarification was missing.
What happened to me being part of X-1 and, as you labeled me, a troll?
Would that seem to dilute your argument when by your own quote Deathping is Trembke and I, not totally absent Jason, was the one counter attacking this anti-Semitic anti-Christian jerk. Where were you? Trashing those on your side not ready to buy a ticket to the Nuremberg rally?

As a photojournalist my entire life I have a clue about journalism. Real journalist, like Woodward and Bernstein do not begin with a conclusion, then arrange only those quotes and facts that agree with their position to arrive at said conclusion.

Had this method been used Nixon would have never resigned.

There is more than ample evidence to show wrong on X-1’s part and every reason for modders to be upset and want reasonable action. Many here are determined to prove you can go lower than X-1 and pledge no limit to it.

You infer Deathping may be Trembke but casually admit you have no proof. Let me ask you something, many supporters of mod makers have expressed their view; are they part of RUB in disguise or some of the many that believe showing their support for the great service Beery etc have done deserves a voice and a show of support?
Do you honestly believe that there is not one person in the world that has had a good experience with this group?
Not one?
Yet you imply this racist bigot that you would not confront yourself is in fact X-1.
I again emailed Reg Mcneal and because I offered to post the original explanation that they sent and I posted that you chose not to include, I basically stated I wanted to know who DeathPing ( I was as direct as I am here) was and if he was connected to X-1 in any way. Reg told me he does not know who it is and he is definitely not a part of X-1.
I am sure him saying that means nothing to the mob and certainly being relayed by a troll only proves it is impossible.

That was a helpful chronology with a well scripted arrangement butif that was to be your case you would be ill prepared in a real trial as you ignore what you don’t want to see and therefore can not draw a real conclusion, particularly when all here want no part of any other possible view. You and most here are not looking for a satisfactory resolution. You want vengeance!

This began as a legitimate concern to all involved.
X-1 acted improperly, by intent, by ignorance whatever. They are claiming they have/will remove any mod that they do not have permission to use. So that brings us back to those that say they have not been contacted. There are many mods that are a rearranging of the original files. Everything I have done is exactly that. Any file that has the same name as UBIs version with new numbers changed ships, altered weapons etc etc. is not “MY� property and if X-1 got a hold of my mods (and in spite of the fact some think I am part of X-1 because I refuse to hold out my right hand and wear the arm band on my sig) and they opened them and copied them I would be annoyed but I would not claim my original work has been violated. So, Has X-1 “stole� anything that is an “original� mod??
I would agree the first is improper, just not illegal. I certainly would not risk hurting SH3 over it

X-1 was wrong, but this group here is the ones doing the bigger damage to SH3. If I was thinking about getting SH3 today as a newbe, I would look at this crap and say. See ya losers, what a bunch of babies, including myself.

Why not do something constructive like form a three man panel to directly negotiate with X-1 and hammer out a compromise that will end this flame war? Or, do all prefer this flame war? Seems like you do.

Should I change my name to Trollmann, Jason? BTW, nice choice of escorts in the improved convoys.

Still, for now, Wulfmann

This is not a flame war.

Well, that clears that up, thanks

Wulfmann

@jasonb885.........You have made this " mumbo jumbo" very CLEAR to me!!!...and I feel you have done your home work!!!!...Well done.. :|\


redstorm101............

I know this is my first post here at Subsim, but I have been following this controversy very closely. First is the mod theft that is happening by this guy could tear the SHIII community apart and cause modders to quit all together.

Some things I want to try and clarify. While I am not a modder per se, I have done a few things in the past. I make AFCADs for MS Flight Simulator 2004 and distribute them. I research what I want to do and create what I think fits. While I used a 3rd party tool to create them, I am creating my own file. From the time I first place a parking spot or a gate at a terminal on an airport (even a stock airport file from the game), that becomes my mod for that game and it is copyright from then on. If I choose to packaget it for sale, I am free to do so. If I choose to give it away via free downloads, I can do that too. If I state that it can only be downloaded at one place, that is the only place it can be downloaded from and anyone else is breaking the law. If someone tries to package it and claim it as their own, they again are breaking the law.

I too, as MONOLITH has done, have had to get Ubi permission to use files from their games to be packaged as a mod. As GT182 most likely has seen at the Ubi forums that I believe Wulfmann has commented about with the 2 sticky posts, I noted such usage of RSE/Ubi files in a mod in one of those threads that Wulfmann apparently failed to read.

As noted:

From the SH3 add on announced thread, I posted some copyright law that backs up what I state above from Copyright.gov:

Monolith is right about Ubi files in a mod, they belong to Ubi and you can't sell them or give to much of the files away. You are limited as to what you can use for a mod you intend to distribute by Ubi's copyright and that has to be included in your mod. If any of the mods that X1 is using has Ubi files that another modder used, then X1 is breaking the law.

From what I have seen, Jason put together everything that shows that X1 is less than scrupulous.

Now as far as community goes, I look at it as an entirety. Whether I only hang at Ubi, SimHQ, here or somewhere else, we all share one thing in common, the love for one game, SHIII.

As Monolith was a modder and a staff member at a different GR fansite than I am, he is still part of the GR community. Stating that such and such isn't because he doesn't post here means that you want to splinter the community and not help take care of those who may not know better about issues such as this. I want to see X1 put out of business. Wulfmann, open your eyes and take a look around, Asking for permission after the fact does not make what they are doing right or legal. Ya have to ask first.

I can't take all the credit. Others did much of the work. I just assembled it into one document.

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How about this new signature banner? ;)

Eh?

Please provide it to me and I'll consider including it.

I never claimed you had anything to do with X1. Check the threads yourself. I just labeled you a troll for whining about the middle ground in a situation where one does not exist. Since we've had proof positive mods were 'borrowed' you've continued the rallying cry, "let them repent, they're bowing to the community!". Sorry, no.

Dude, whatever. I didn't make up the duplicity of these people. Their posts speak for themselves. The only bits not included are the full emails used, as I haven't acquired permission to repost them.

By all means, though, doublecheck the information. I present it as the evidence I have collected. Please, verify what is fact as fact and fiction as fiction, then.

Eh? I just want people to be aware of who those lamers are.

Racist bigotry? Drop it. Find another analogy or this discussion ends, now.

You have not contacted me in any manner to express interest in providing this information, except now, here, in this forum, in this very post. Eh?

By all means, let's see your discussion with X1, then.

Give that Leonard has often taken to forums to post support for his products as other people -- this is not suposition, this is proven fact, based on his own failure to mask his identity in some emails to people -- it's hard to take anything this individual claims as truth.

What did I ignore. By all means, present your facts.

Or is your rant just a strawman?

I have no idea. It isn't my place to judge what has been borrowed, taken without permission, is or is not Ubisoft's property, and so forth. My goal is merely to demonstrate these people are scammers and not to be trusted.

Darn. I care.

Heh. What panel? What people? There's no organization here. It's just a bunch of people, together, that happen to make mods and liberally share information and help one another. That's it. There's no group, no panel, no organization, no one true plan.

Dude, give it a rest.

Just present the evidence you have accumulated from direct contact with X1 or CP and send it my way. I'll post it directly, as is, for all to see. Or simply reproduce the information here. My goal isn't to hide the truth. If you have something vital to share with me, and everyone else reading, please, share.

I'd love to be proven wrong.

What's happened is a travesty.

I guess he's one of those "in b4 l0ck" people.

Heh.

The Ubisoft forum discussion on this matter now appears to be closed.

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Coinage? Over mail? Overseas? Yea right...

In any case, to me it looks like deathping is just a troll. I don't think it's trombke because as someone already said, his english is better than trombke's (although he also apears to be german).

He certainly is funny though :lol:

I think I agree with you.

It's too strange otherwise.

Who it is specifically, though, I imagine we'll never know. Perhaps he's a tool's tool?

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