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Dread Knot 11-25-14 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 2264041)
Truthfully, American people don't care if Americans burn American towns down.
I bet I've seen 1000 statements on FB, rather American, that Americans enjoy watching it.

Quite possible. I always had the suspicion that 1939's Gone with the Wind was big hit with American audiences, not for the turgid boring romance, but for the thrill of watching Atlanta burn to the ground.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/image...1100191972.jpg

Rockstar 11-25-14 10:15 AM

http://www.duniverso.com.br/wp-conte...a-inocente.jpg

She looks thrilled, don't you think?

Dread Knot 11-25-14 10:36 AM

One Nation, under martial law with pyromania and Molotov Cocktails for all.

Oh...and quit smoking. It's not good for you.

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/k...by-burn-13.png

ikalugin 11-25-14 11:36 AM

I wonder how many tincap wearing Internet users are now discussing the inevitable break up of the USA and -polite men- occupying Washington DC?

Betonov 11-25-14 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin (Post 2264061)
I wonder how many tincap wearing Internet users are now discussing the inevitable break up of the USA and -polite men- occupying Washington DC?

Less than 1% of the population, but trust me, you'll hear them to Moscow

BossMark 11-25-14 11:46 AM

Was the jury all white by any chance?

Dread Knot 11-25-14 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BossMark (Post 2264065)
Was the jury all white by any chance?


The Grand Jury in this case was composed of six white men, three white women, two black women and one black man. St. Louis County overall is 70 percent white, but about two-thirds of Ferguson's residents are black.

Rockstar 11-25-14 12:05 PM

Having examined all of the evidence from the case, I firmly believe... Oh wait. I haven't examined all of the evidence from the case. Nevermind.

Armistead 11-25-14 12:06 PM

See they're gonna protest in several of the larger cities near us here in NC tonight...I assume this will take place all over the US.

Oberon 11-25-14 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dread Knot (Post 2264067)
The Grand Jury in this case was composed of six white men, three white women, two black women and one black man. St. Louis County overall is 70 percent white, but about two-thirds of Ferguson's residents are black.

9 white to 3 black, and guess how much of a majority is needed for the jury to reach a decision. 9 out of 12.

Someone really didn't think when they composed the jury. :nope:

Meanwhile, Amnesty International are out in the streets, monitoring things, only the second time in history they've been deployed in America.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3S5S8YCIAAIvD-.jpg:large

Apparently there were, as I suspected, attempts to prevent further damage.

"Business owner Jerome Jenkins says people locked arms to prevent more damage. "I wish I knew who they were."

https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/stat...789632/photo/1

One police officer was shot and at least one person, however the police forces have denied using live rounds last night, and from what I could see on the live footage this is an accurate statement. One witness did state at one point that the munition was coming from the crowd towards the police rather than the other way. Police were relatively calm in their response, starting with smoke grenades, moving up to tear gas and the trusty LRADs.
Firefighters probably had one of the tougher nights, being overstretched and not having the manpower or protection to deal with the approximately twenty-five structural fires that took place in Ferguson.

Tonight will probably see a much more robust police reponse, I imagine the SWAT will be much more pro-active and the Guard might even move in as well.

As always, I recommend this reddit thread for information, livestreams and photos from the many amateur and professional journalists in the area:
http://www.reddit.com/live/tdrph3y49ftn/

Aktungbby 11-25-14 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2264074)
9 white to 3 black, and guess how much of a majority is needed for the jury to reach a decision. 9 out of 12.

Someone really didn't think when they composed the jury.

That was a Grand Jury which already exists and is not selected as for a specific trial and must represent the demographic of the county not the city. St Louis County: as of 2000 by census: 780,000 white 76.8%; Black-193,306 19.0%; Asian and ; 'other' races 42,179 4.2%. The census appears to me to be a bit dated and only reflects those who declared a 'single ethnicity'! The Asian and Hispanic population is rising noticeably. As a county grand jury , with three Blacks, there was an equitable distribution-actually reflecting 25% and not 19%.:03: http://www.stlouisco.com/Portals/8/docs/Document%20Library/Maps%20and%20GIS/Fact%20Book/Fact%20Book%202007-2012/Population.pdf Since grand jury members tend to be reasonably affluent for their year-long term, I suspect that wily prosecutor 'knew' exactly which iron to put in the fire (literally?!) to give the process 'verisimilitude'. Also in the broadcast news last night, the 21 foot threat zone I alluded to earlier in this thread (post #107) was mentioned as part of the officers training in mitigation of his conduct....

Rockstar 11-25-14 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2264074)
9 white to 3 black, and guess how much of a majority is needed for the jury to reach a decision. 9 out of 12.

It is only an assumption on our part the jury voted like typical racisits whites for the white and blacks for the black rather than based on the provided evidence. As far as I know the vote count nor evidence has not been revealed and may not ever be.

Your beginning to sound like us 'all muslims are the same crowd' :)

Catfish 11-25-14 01:13 PM

Did the police officer really fire six (!) shots ? :hmmm:

I am sure it was a well-balanced jury ...

Aktungbby 11-25-14 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2264082)
I take you are assuming the jury voted along race rather than evidence. But as far as I know the vote count has not been revealed and may not ever be.

Your beginning to sound like us 'all musims are the same crowd' :)

Correct; grand jury proceedings are secret until as in Napa we release an annual published report of findings and recommendations. And let's just leave 'crowded museums' :timeout: out of this already heated discussion shall we-no need to expand a cool thread more than the topic requires.? :03:

Mr Quatro 11-25-14 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2264083)
Did the police officer really fire six (!) shots ? :hmmm:

I am sure it was a well-balanced jury ...

Fact sheet says officer fired 12 shots with the last one fatal to the top of the head and the first one to the victims thumb.

That little gun does not look like it could fire 12 shots.

What would they do if the St Louis Rams moved back to Los Angeles?


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