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gap 07-08-13 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 2081504)
:o Nice work! :up:
Will test that.
You said only for VII and VIIC types...:hmmm: VIIA too?

No, only VIIC's and VIIC41's (which our sources refer to directly). We will work on other types once we manage to understand what is going on with bell ratios, rpm's and speeds :03:

P.S: from now on, can you report the results of your tests in terms of rpm and speed?

Fifi 07-08-13 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap (Post 2081507)
P.S: from now on, can you report the results of your tests in terms of rpm and speed?

Yes, but i'm only using what i see with UI...dials aren't that precise :-?

gap 07-08-13 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 2081513)
Yes, but i'm only using what i see with UI...dials aren't that precise :-?

More or less :03:

Fifi 07-08-13 07:29 PM

Ok, tested with zero wind in a VIIC (TDW sub exhaust single mission).
Your mod on top of Volodya's, so only VIIC concerned...

DIESEL

Forward:
- Slow 6 Knot 1800 RPM
- One third 9.8 Knot 2800 RPM
- Standard 11.9 Knot 3400 RPM
- Full 16.2 Knot 4600 RPM
- Flank 17.3 Knot 4900 RPM

Backward:
- Back Slow 7 Knot 2000 RPM
- Back Standard 8.2 Knot 2300 RPM
- Back Full 10 Knot 2800 RPM
- Back emergency 13 Knot 4200 RPM

ELECTRIC

Forward:
- Slow 1.5 Knot 750 RPM
- One third 3 Knot 1250 RPM
- Standard 4.2 Knot 1700 RPM
- Full 6.5 Knot 2500 RPM
- Flank 7.8 Knot 2900 RPM

Backward:
- Back Slow 1.7 Knot 800 RPM
- Back Standard 3.2 Knot 1300 RPM
- Back Full 4.9 Knot 1800 RPM
- Back emergency 6 Knot 2700 RPM

Back slow still slightly faster than forward...

gap 07-08-13 08:30 PM

Fifi, I will comment your report tomorrow, but at first sight I would say that your results vaguely resemble the espected outputs :confused: :salute:

TheDarkWraith 07-08-13 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap (Post 2081547)
Fifi, I will comment your report tomorrow, but at first sight I would say that your results vaguely resemble the espected outputs :confused: :salute:

He should do the same test but with the Electric engine ratios patch disabled and compare results :yep:

gap 07-08-13 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith (Post 2081550)
He should do the same test but with the Electric engine ratios patch disabled and compare results :yep:

Yes, I agree. Another good test would be halving or doubling bell ratios, engine rpm and max speed, and seeing if/how they affect actual engine outputs :hmmm:

Fifi 07-08-13 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap (Post 2081547)
Fifi, I will comment your report tomorrow, but at first sight I would say that your results vaguely resemble the espected outputs :confused: :salute:

Yes, not bad at all IMO.
Difference between electric slow forward, and electric slow backward is quite negligible...

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith
He should do the same test but with the Electric engine ratios patch disabled and compare results

Will do :03:

TheDarkWraith 07-08-13 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 2081557)
Yes, not bad at all IMO.
Difference between electric slow forward, and electric slow backward is quite negligible...

Will do :03:

This will verify the patch is working correctly (which I don't doubt but it's nice to have a secondary source verifying) :yep:

Fifi 07-08-13 09:22 PM

Same test as above but all TDW electric patches deactivated :)

DIESEL: same results as above of course :D

ELECTRIC:

Forward:
- Slow 2.8 Knot 1150 RPM
- One third 4.5 Knot 1800 RPM
- Standard 5.5 Knot 2100 RPM
- Full 7.8 Knot 2900 RPM
- Flank 8 Knot 3000 RPM

Backward:
- Back Slow 3.3 Knot 1300 RPM
- Back Standard 4 Knot 1500 RPM
- Back Full 4.8 Knot 1850 RPM
- Back emergency 6 Knot 2700 RPM

:up:

TheDarkWraith 07-08-13 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 2081579)
Same test as above but all TDW electric patches deactivated :)

DIESEL: same results as above of course :D

ELECTRIC:

You just proved my patch is working correctly :D

gap 07-08-13 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 2081579)
ELECTRIC:

Forward:
- Slow 2.8 Knot 1150 RPM
- One third 4.5 Knot 1800 RPM
- Standard 5.5 Knot 2100 RPM
- Full 7.8 Knot 2900 RPM
- Flank 8 Knot 3000 RPM

Backward:
- Back Slow 3.3 Knot 1300 RPM
- Back Standard 4 Knot 1500 RPM
- Back Full 4.8 Knot 1850 RPM
- Back emergency 6 Knot 2700 RPM

:up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith (Post 2081581)
You just proved my patch is working correctly :D

Yep, there's a clear difference :yeah:

Fifi 07-08-13 10:04 PM

So now, we need same kind of values for VIIA and B...or do we copy the VIIC for others too? :-?

gap 07-08-13 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 2081591)
So now, we need same kind of values for VIIA and B...or do we copy the VIIC for others too? :-?

For speed order ratios, I think we can keep the same as the VIIC. But we need to finetune them first as there are some speed bells that don't add up yet.

As for engine rpm and max speed sim settings, types VIIA and VIIB will need for their own settings, which we will adapt from uboat.net's values :up:

volodya61 07-09-13 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap (Post 2081595)
For speed order ratios, I think we can keep the same as the VIIC. But we need to finetune them first as there are some speed bells that don't add up yet.

As for engine rpm and max speed sim settings, types VIIA and VIIB will need for their own settings, which we will adapt from uboat.net's values :up:

As I can see, you don't change anything in my order ratios settings (based on your data) in the .cfg files.. and all the order ratios are the same for all the subs btw.. you just slightly changed max speed values in the .sim files and set eng_rpm as was in stock..

@ Fifi

If you want better and clear results of your tests - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=313


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