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Fifi 06-18-13 02:34 AM

Added Naights Submaine Textures v1.2 (PUV) ---> with submarine folder deleted
Backed up to NewUIs version 7.4.2 for more stability

Greatly lighted my list to play on high reso without CTDs (though it could have come from previous NewUIs 7.5.0 latest test version...i'll never know)

First post list running CTD free on high reso so far :up:

Fifi 06-23-13 08:19 PM

Added DynEnv v2.9 - 3.a Enhanced Visibility (medium) with only the Env folder in it (fog distance)

This way i keep the realistic main mod underwater and impurities, but get rid of the medium fog white crew rendering exterior and white cunning tower interior :up:

volodya61 07-07-13 08:06 AM

Hey Fifi :salute:

There is Stoianm pitch&roll + Real Battery Lifetime + U-boats.cfg's (edited+modified for engine ratio patches) - http://www.4sync.com/archive/Ncxp6Sk...al_Batter.html

It's modified for the compatibility with the latest patch and all the cfg files now based on Gap's data from this post - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=2258

Fifi 07-07-13 03:29 PM

Very cool :yeah:
Thanks a lot Volodya, gonna replace old version today :Kaleun_Salivating:

gap 07-07-13 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volodya61 (Post 2080575)
Hey Fifi :salute:

There is Stoianm pitch&roll + Real Battery Lifetime + U-boats.cfg's (edited+modified for engine ratio patches) - http://www.4sync.com/archive/Ncxp6Sk...al_Batter.html

It's modified for the compatibility with the latest patch and all the cfg files now based on Gap's data from this post - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=2258

@ Volodya

Don't forget that you also need to adjust eng_rpm settings in order to use my speed order ratios. 485 for diesel propulsion and 300 for electrical propulsion :03:

volodya61 07-07-13 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap (Post 2080905)
@ Volodya

Don't forget that you also need to adjust eng_rpm settings in order to use my speed order ratios. 485 for diesel propulsion and 300 for electrical propulsion :03:

Do you think so? I already changed order ratios before (without changing sim) and everything worked :hmmm:
but okay, I will do it right now..

@ Fifi

a little bit later I will upload new version (based on Gap's tip) for you to test.. because I can no longer (or at the moment) test anything..

Fifi 07-07-13 05:12 PM

:up:

gap 07-07-13 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volodya61 (Post 2080915)
Do you think so? I already changed order ratios before (without changing sim) and everything worked :hmmm:
but okay, I will do it right now..

Yes indeed, difference between current settings and my settings is not big: 480 vs 485 and 300 vs 290. By the way, you should also adjust max speed settings. I will tell you in a few, after looking at my numbers and at the spped order ratios you have picked :up:

volodya61 07-07-13 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap (Post 2080905)
@ Volodya

Don't forget that you also need to adjust eng_rpm settings in order to use my speed order ratios. 485 for diesel propulsion and 300 for electrical propulsion :03:

Forgot to ask - should I set the same values for all the sub types? because now they are not the same :hmmm:

volodya61 07-07-13 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap (Post 2080924)
Yes indeed, difference between current settings and my settings is not big: 480 vs 485 and 300 vs 290. By the way, you should also adjust max speed settings. I will tell you in a few, after looking at my numbers and at the spped order ratios you have picked :up:

I already edited max speed values based on Uboat.net information.. should I re-edit them?

volodya61 07-07-13 06:02 PM

Well, here is latest version with all Gap's corrections/amendments :03: - http://www.4sync.com/archive/r0Efc-h...al_Batter.html

gap 07-07-13 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volodya61 (Post 2080929)
I already edited max speed values based on Uboat.net information.. should I re-edit them?

Well, I think that maximum theoretical speed would have changed from U-boat type to U-boat type.

The sources that my suggested ratios are based on, are relative to the VIIC. From data reported in the German VIIC manual, we can deduce a knots / RPM linear gradient of 0.0374 and 0.0375, respectively for diesel propulsion (condition "A") and electric surfaced propulsion; 0.03745 on average. From the Admiralty report we get a gradient of 0.0357 (in calm weather). Now, seeing that you have used averaged speed ratio figures, I would average gradients too:

(0.03745 + 0.0357) / 2 = 0.036575

Multiplying the above number for the maximum Diesel RPM, that we had set to 485, we would obtain:

0.036575 * 485 = 17.738875 (VIIC's maximum diesel speed)

For maximum electric speed, things are a bit more complicated: as noted above, diesel and electric surfaced gradients (as calculated German manual's info), are identical for any practical purpose. So, assuming that surfaced gradient is constant (no matter wether diesel or lectric propulsion are considered), we should calculate maximum electrical speed as:

0.036575 * 300 = 10.9725 (VIIC's maximum electric speed surfaced)

Nonetheless, as per the German source, submerged gadient is 0.0280, 0.0262 calculated from British measurements. This gives an average figure of 0.0271 which is sensibly lower than the surfaced gradient considered above. This difference is probably due to the negative effect of U-boat's superstructure and guns during submerged navigation. Using the above figure, we would get:

0.0271 * 300 = 8.13 (VIIC's maximum electric speed submerged)

Now the point is that we don't know if the game takes the above discusse friction factors into the due account. So, in conclusion, I would test both settings, and see what happens in game :hmm2:

Fifi 07-07-13 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volodya61 (Post 2080950)
Well, here is latest version with all Gap's corrections/amendments :03: - http://www.4sync.com/archive/r0Efc-h...al_Batter.html

That was fast, thanks! Will test very soon :yeah:

volodya61 07-07-13 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap (Post 2080954)
Well, I think that maximum theoretical speed would have changed from U-boat type to U-boat type...

I set the eng_rpm values for all the sub types to the 485/300 as you suggested..
And long ago I set max speed as I saw on Uboat.net to the -

Type / max speed submerged / max speed surfaced

VIIA / 8 / 17
VIIB / 8 / 17.9
VIIC / 7.6 / 17.7
VIIC-41 / 7.6 / 17.7

and we can't use electric engines surfaced in this game.. so, no values to set :D

gap 07-07-13 06:44 PM

P.S: maximum speeds calculated in my previous post might look at bit high, but they are not: multiplying them for the new speed order ratios, we would get:

DIESEL

AheadSlow=0.35 * 17.738875 = 6.20 knots
AheadOneThird=0.56 * 17.738875 = 9.93 knots
AheadStandard=0.68 * 17.738875 = 12.06 knots
AheadFull=0.94 * 17.738875 = 16.67 knots
AheadFlank=0.99 * 17.738875 = 17.56 knots
BackSlow=-0.37 * 17.738875 = -6.56 knots
BackStandard=-0.43 * 17.738875 = -7.63 knots
BackFull=-0.52 * 17.738875 = -9.22 knots
BackEmergency=-0.82 * 17.738875 = -14.55 knots

ELECTRIC

AheadSlow=0.19 * 8.13 = 1.54 knots
AheadOneThird=0.37 * 8.13 = 3.01 knots
AheadStandard=0.53 * 8.13 = 4.31 knots
AheadFull=0.81 * 8.13 = 6.59 knots
AheadFlank=0.94 * 8.13 = 7.64 knots
BackSlow=-0.18 * 8.13 = -1.46 knots
BackStandard=-0.37 * 8.13 = -3.01 knots
BackFull=-0.53 * 8.13 = -4.31 knots
BackEmergency=-0.83 * 8.13 = -6.75 knots

As you can see, flank speeds (in bold) are not dissimilar from the maximum surfaced and submerged speeds stated by U-boat.net for the VIIC (17,7 and
7,6 knots respectively)


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