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terrapin 07-25-05 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ship Hunter
Can you please post a full list of the mods they have included? My Interior Textures as well?


I didn't - nor do I - have the time to evaluate all data. PM me what files you are looking for...

The Avon Lady 07-25-05 06:34 AM

Ail just posted on the Ubi forum that he did not give permission for commercial use of his mods to anyone and is rather peeved that someone would have the nerve to do this.

Another satisfied customer! :down:

terrapin 07-25-05 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
Ail just posted on the Ubi forum that he did not give permission for commercial use of his mods to anyone and is rather peeved that someone would have the nerve to do this.

Another satisfied customer! :down:

Yeah, read that...If anyone inhere has the time to crawl through the complete data of 'Seawolves' comparing it with previously released material, I'd appreciate reports inhere (or, if public discussion should not be appreciated by Neil or the moderators, privately at my known addresses)

terrapin 07-25-05 06:48 AM

Aah...going through our 'unread messages' folder I just noticed we got mail from 'Ossi'. He's threatening - in rather bad German - to sue us...

The more he announced he 'won't be informing us ever again regarding future X1 releases'.
:)

Rest assured: I'll try MY best to inform YOU about...'future X1 releases'. :D

The Avon Lady 07-25-05 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrapin
He's threatening - in rather bad German

Gee. Can't even get that right! :nope:

Shadow9216 07-25-05 07:42 AM

So is OSSI going to get a court order to force SUBSIM to give up the IPs of all the posters? So he can find out who claims to have knowledge of "his" products content?

Zachstar 07-25-05 07:45 AM

Ha it is he who shall recieve the court order.

jasonb885 07-25-05 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrapin
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ship Hunter
Can you please post a full list of the mods they have included? My Interior Textures as well?


I didn't - nor do I - have the time to evaluate all data. PM me what files you are looking for...

I'll have to see what I can come up with.

Forensic analysis is fun.

:up:

RevRaz 07-25-05 10:25 AM

This reminds me of a time I created an application for Ravenshield in order to help making maps easier. Someone took my program and put it on EBAY for $20.00.

Took me awhile to get it straighted out and to get it off.

msxyz 07-25-05 10:57 AM

There is a sticky in the official forums:

Quote:

It is not an official add-on, there is no deal between Ubisoft and X1SOFTWARE. The legal team at Ubisoft have been aware of the product for a while, I can assure you that.

macstu23 07-25-05 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msxyz
There is a sticky in the official forums:

Quote:

It is not an official add-on, there is no deal between Ubisoft and X1SOFTWARE. The legal team at Ubisoft have been aware of the product for a while, I can assure you that.

Who posted it ?

KodiakPA 07-25-05 11:59 AM

macstu23, I LOVE your signiture photo. Where did you get it and how did you post it as your sig?

terrapin 07-25-05 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msxyz
There is a sticky in the official forums:

Quote:

It is not an official add-on, there is no deal between Ubisoft and X1SOFTWARE. The legal team at Ubisoft have been aware of the product for a while, I can assure you that.

I'm pretty sure they were NOT aware someone is going to violate applicable copyright laws - lawyers are not stupid per se... :D

Shadow9216 07-25-05 12:07 PM

I think it was the community manager, UbiRazz, who posted that quote.

SeaSlug_U999 07-25-05 12:12 PM

So, if X1 doesn't have Ubi's blessings, should we assume they don't have the SDK either?

I think we came as far as we could (in terms of modding) without the SDK. I was kinda (foolishly) hoping that X1 was willing to share the SDK with us. I've been playing around with 3dsmax and I guess we could expand SH3 further and faster than Ubi or any subsidiary.

Anyway, I was under the impresion that SH4 is underway (subsim.com gossip), so the majority of the modders agree we ain't gonna see the SDK soon. If X1 has done nothing but steal some mods freely available at subsim or other webpages, they're nothing but a bunck of w***ers. Before we fire at them, has anyone tried to contact them, to see their explanation?

CCIP 07-25-05 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaSlug_U999
So, if X1 doesn't have Ubi's blessings, should we assume they don't have the SDK either?

I can tell you now that they have no SDK. And if they do, I must say it's a rather weak SDK or a weak effort on their part since they apparently used it for no more than data edits on or below the level of what the community has already achieved.

Which, I guess, means that they actually don't have it. :hmm:

terrapin 07-25-05 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaSlug_U999
Before we fire at them, has anyone tried to contact them, to see their explanation?


sure, all in german, biggest part not quotable inhere, but sufficient enough to put X1 into a very bad light in front of a court.



X1 had no SDK access, the 'Seawolves' thing contains nothing but known mods....and we're able to prove definitely that the intellectual property of (at least) 5 people has been included without permissions....the story is evolving fast, and - to my knowledge - lawsuits are getting prepared as we speak.

SeaSlug_U999 07-25-05 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP
Which, I guess, means that they actually don't have it. :hmm:

Yeah, you're probably right. Does anyone actually have contact with Ubisoft? Has anyone got a clearer picture of what's gonna happen with this game?

macstu23 07-25-05 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KodiakPA
macstu23, I LOVE your signiture photo. Where did you get it and how did you post it as your sig?

Sink the pirates Sig available completely free to the SH3 community from here;

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/803/ssx19xm.jpg

Designated freeware only, use at own risk. Not to be used for any commercial gain without permission from me the author (and a substantial cut of your profits.) :arrgh!:

terrapin 07-25-05 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaSlug_U999
Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP
Which, I guess, means that they actually don't have it. :hmm:

Yeah, you're probably right. Does anyone actually have contact with Ubisoft? Has anyone got a clearer picture of what's gonna happen with this game?

No contact to Ubisoft Romania, but I can assure you it's getting better day by day thanks to our great modders!


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