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Stefan-C 11-16-14 07:43 AM

Well guys, I tried everything. Nothing is working.
I uninstalled the game, it's not worth playing with no sound.

aanker 11-16-14 11:48 AM

Follow this procedure and SHCE will run (99% of the time):
Silent Hunter Commander's Edition

How to Run it with DOSBox in

Windows XP, Windows Vista, & Windows 7 ... and 8.

http://www.subsowespac.org/the-patrol-zone/silent-hunter-windows-vista-dosbox.shtml

Sorry, I didn't realize that this topic was active or I would have jumped in sooner.

Major Johnson 05-14-15 12:44 PM

Saw this thread and found it odd that just this past weekend I found my old SH CE cd and was able to get it to install and run via DOSBox. I've been getting a hankering for some subbing as of late, like someone said, SH1 was what started it all for me back in the day! I'm definitely gonna download that mod by Hawk and see the changes.

And I know this is a bit late, but Stephan-C never indicated he resolved his sound issue. I had a similar issue on my XP box with the Tank Sim "Tiger Hunt" a few months back and resolved it by lowering the sound acceleration slider to the lowest setting. The game ran fine after that.

Major Johnson 05-25-15 08:44 AM

So after installing PA and getting it to run correctly, I find that in SH1 when I try to activate the Charts by either pressing F5 or clicking on Charts I get a CTD. Anyone else ever come across this??

Pisces 05-27-15 06:00 PM

Iirc there is a text file or ini file with file paths. Maybe that one isn't resembling the installation on your system.

There was also a specific map that could cause a CTD (North or South Japan iirc) but that was only when you specifically clicked it, I think You had to replace it with a fixed file. It's probably in the legacy downloads of Subsim.

This one is it:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...do=file&id=502

Onkel Neal 05-27-15 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott_c2911 (Post 2203859)
I didnt know where else to post this as there is no Silent Hunter 1 forum anymore. Anyway I have managed to find lodged away in some box somewhere at my mom and dads house after more than a decade my copy of Silent Hunter 1. The game that started it all for me with sub simming. We all know it wasn't going to work on XP so why bother when you have Silent Hunter 3 and 4. Well last night I did bother just for the nostalgia and I was pleasantly suprised how easy it was. I used D-Fend Reloaded which is DOS Box 0.74 with a simple frontend UI so people who are not literate in DOS commands can get on with it. The game installed flawlessly. The game didnt run initially due to it needing the CD but this was also fixed by copying the BUD folder on the CD into the the C:\SILENT directory. Then just change shpath.ini (also found in C:\SILENT directory) to read exactly as follows:
BUD =BUD\
DATA =DATA\
ART =ART\
SFX =SFX\
SPEECH =SPEECH\
CINES =CINES\
SCEN =SCEN\
SAVE =SAVE\
Configured the sound with the default settings and away I went. I'm in command of the USS Shark I think. I'm heading out towards Southern Japan. I have to say though it makes me appreciate Silent Hunter 3 and the later games so much more. The graphics were cutting edge for the time but now they definitely look dated. Controls are not as good either but I remember it being so much easier. Nevermind its still a classic.

This is the place for SH1 threads, good work and thanks for posting! :salute: Posted on the Subsim main page.

Major Johnson 05-28-15 08:24 PM

Yes I already have the ini edited as shown, and I did copy those files as suggested by Pieces, but I'm still getting a CTD. I just have a feeling it's got to do with the PA or SH2 install that I have on the same drive. I really don't have the time this weekend to experiment with installing/uninstalling.

aanker 05-29-15 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major Johnson (Post 2316987)
Yes I already have the ini edited as shown, and I did copy those files as suggested by Pieces, but I'm still getting a CTD. I just have a feeling it's got to do with the PA or SH2 install that I have on the same drive. I really don't have the time this weekend to experiment with installing/uninstalling.

I have SHCE, PA, and SH4 v1.5 running on this Win 7 64 bit, in different directories on the same drive. SHCE runs through DOSBox, and Pacific Aces (SH II) and SH4 run through their respective Windows installers. I have never had a conflict.

Ruling that out leaves the Operating system, the graphics card, and the DOSBox SH1 configuration as main suspects for your issue. Are you using a frontend for DOSBox on SHCE?

So, what Windows operating system and graphics card do you have? Also, there are many instructions for installing SHCE in old posts on SUBSIM in this forum, on other websites on the the internet, and I'm curious what install procedure instructions you used on DOSBox to get SHCE running - if any?

Maybe you're a computer Guru and the installs were easy, and you're familiar with 'everything'.... I don't know : )

I know, so many questions, I'm sorry.

Pisces 05-29-15 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 2316741)
This is the place for SH1 threads, good work and thanks for posting! :salute: Posted on the Subsim main page.

shpath.ini:

Duh, first post of the thread. :/\\!!

rowi58 05-30-15 12:37 AM

I have Win 8.1 64-Bit with 16 GB RAM and a AMD R9 with 4 GB VRAM - and SilentHinter(1) is running perfectly in the "DosBox". It is still a superb subsim, better than SH4 (exept graphics, o.k. that is old DOS stuff). So for me in decending order it's SilentHunterIII, SilentHunter (1), SilentHunter2. ...

Greetings
rowi58

Major Johnson 05-31-15 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aanker (Post 2317118)
I have SHCE, PA, and SH4 v1.5 running on this Win 7 64 bit, in different directories on the same drive. SHCE runs through DOSBox, and Pacific Aces (SH II) and SH4 run through their respective Windows installers. I have never had a conflict.

Ruling that out leaves the Operating system, the graphics card, and the DOSBox SH1 configuration as main suspects for your issue. Are you using a frontend for DOSBox on SHCE?

So, what Windows operating system and graphics card do you have? Also, there are many instructions for installing SHCE in old posts on SUBSIM in this forum, on other websites on the the internet, and I'm curious what install procedure instructions you used on DOSBox to get SHCE running - if any?

Maybe you're a computer Guru and the installs were easy, and you're familiar with 'everything'.... I don't know : )

I know, so many questions, I'm sorry.

Questions are good!! It's better than no response at all!! :)

DOS Box: Yes

Operating System: Win7 Pro
Graphics card is listed in my sig.

I wouldn't say I'm a computer guru, but I have built my own pcs since my first compaq with Win95. Building your own is cheaper and you know what you got. I've never had a problem with Nvidia cards.

I'm sure my problem is something stupid.

akula65 05-31-15 07:10 PM

Per McBeck's site circa 2007:

Quote:

Bug: SH has locked up on me several times if I go to the chart screen while at the periscope screen with the ship ID book pulled up. I've never locked it up any other way. This bug cost me a shot at the Yamato and a number of other ships. It's hard sometimes to remember to change back to the gauges before leaving the periscope screen when you're closing a ship and every second counts...
https://web.archive.org/web/20070610.../bugs/bugs.htm

aanker 05-31-15 08:17 PM

pressing F5 makes SHCE CTD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Major Johnson (Post 2316122)
So after installing PA and getting it to run correctly, I find that in SH1 when I try to activate the Charts by either pressing F5 or clicking on Charts I get a CTD. Anyone else ever come across this??

-
Quote:

Originally Posted by Major Johnson (Post 2317672)
Questions are good!! It's better than no response at all!! :)

DOS Box: Yes

Operating System: Win7 Pro
Graphics card is listed in my sig.

I wouldn't say I'm a computer guru, but I have built my own pcs since my first compaq with Win95. Building your own is cheaper and you know what you got. I've never had a problem with Nvidia cards.

I'm sure my problem is something stupid.

You're not running both SHCE & PA at the same time and Alt Tabbing between them, ------ "no"....

Were there re-boots between installing the two (3) games (SHCE, SH II & PA) and after installing the SH II & PA patches, to clear the computer?

I can't figure out why pressing F5 makes SHCE CTD...

A friend has seen everything SHCE, I'm going to ask him if he has ever heard of this.

Edit -
We both are thinking that as long as we have played SHCE, neither of us can remember it crashing on any operating system from DOS 3.11 through the Windows versions, to today.

So, it seems there is probably a corrupt install & configuration of each. Recommend uninstalling SHCE & DOSBox, then a fresh install of DOSBox and then reinstall SHCE doing a FULL install.

Major Johnson 06-06-15 09:27 AM

FYI, I reinstalled SHCE last night and now all is well. No more CTD from pressing F5 or clicking on Charts in the control room. I promptly started a career and got my ass hammered by 5 destroyers and 2 dive bombers while trying to pull off a photo mission in daylight. I'm a little rusty to say the least!!

aanker 06-06-15 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major Johnson (Post 2319170)
FYI, I reinstalled SHCE last night and now all is well. No more CTD from pressing F5 or clicking on Charts in the control room. I promptly started a career and got my ass hammered by 5 destroyers and 2 dive bombers while trying to pull off a photo mission in daylight. I'm a little rusty to say the least!!

lol.... welcome back Captain. Excellent news you're up and running.

SHCE is still at the top of my list. I have modded my installs of SH4 to be close to actual reports, history, and SHCE when SHCE has the specs right.

I recall the DD's in SHCE, ASW for hours, being caught in the 'wagon wheel', and using depth and a low profile to eventually elude. I miss that action.

Happy Hunting!

Trool323 06-26-15 03:52 AM

Awesome! I went down memory lane for about an hour myself tonight thanks to this post. I racked up 70,000 tons plus in one patrol and got bored. Still remember all the quick keys. lol. I still have all of hawks old add-ons to. Anyways, its easier than ever to play SH1 now on a newer system. We have to remember its 20 yrs old. SH4 gets a lot of hate from some, but for me its the holy grail after you mod it the way that you wish.

Stoli151 07-11-15 10:45 AM

I have SH1 installed on my tablet using android OS. All you need is the dosbox app for android(about $3) and be familiar with using dos commands and it's fairly easy to do. So now I take SH1 wherever I want. I also have Master of Orion 2, the original X-Com, the original Bards tale 1,2,and 3 installed on my ASUS tab. I'm sure you could do this with a phone as well but I would only do it on a phone with a very large screen like a Samsung note or similar.

scrapser 07-13-15 01:00 PM

Nice to see SH1 still has traction. For myself I have my copy installed on a home-built Win98SE computer along with a lot of other great sims and games from that era. I've always considered SH1 to be a direct descendant of MicroProse's "Silent Service". They both play nearly identically in terms of the controls and command screens and SH1 obviously has so much more built into it. Silent Service for the Commodore 64 was my first computer game back in 1984. 31 years ago!

Julian 07-24-15 04:35 PM

Need Help - Silent Hunter 1 - Unsupported 16-bir Application message
 
I clicked Pisces link to SUBSOWESPAC - SHCE How to Run it with DOSBox.
I printed it out.

I have Silent Hunter Commander's Edition.
I also got the latest version of DosBox 0.74.

I followed the instructions to bring up the Command Prompt in Windows.

I placed the CD in the Cd drive and entered the current drive which was D:

Entered the line - Install X:
The Cd began to install. Just when it started to install the files,
it stopped and came up with following message:

UNSUPPORTED 16-Bit Application
The program or feature "\??\D:\SH\INSTALL.EXE" cannot start or run due to
incompatibility with 64-bit versions of Windows. Please contact the software
vendor to ask if a 64-bit Windows compatible is available.
OK

I had a previous message referring to both 64-bit and 32-bit Windows.

How can I get around to changing the application??

Thanks.

aanker 07-24-15 08:15 PM

Did you install SHCE to a folder off the root C: and not into Program Files??

Should look like this:

C: Hard Drive
C:\GAMES
C:\GAMES\SILENT ......... #2. below:

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps3jxvvpyt.jpg
- (graphic from subsowespac.org)

You should be starting SHCE by using DOSBox. Did you double check the settings and try to install SHCE again?

That is a strange error message I have not heard of before. So many have succeeded installing to Vista, Win 7, and even Win 8.x. I would try the install again.


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