Oswald Rabbit obviously. :D

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/20...y_darren72.jpg

Now that's funny, can't seem to get a word in edge wise here server always busy or is that another,, con spear assiey,,, I'm well,, glad, some took up the good fight,,, I salute you carry on. and how about getting that Pt done I don't want to die of old age before that's done Nic.

I don't believe that there was a conspiracy to kill JFK. Oswald acted alone, tried and got a shot on target. Hickey s shot was an accident. Was there then a conspiracy to cover up the accident?

We'll never know. The ballistic evidence doesn't support there being a single gunman using the same ammunition. The angle and bullet behavior of the head shot is inconsistent with a jacketed round fired from the book depsitory window, but wholly consistent with a smaller caliber frangible round being fired from the chase car.

Again we can only speculate and will still be doing so 100 years from now.

25 reasons why the assassination of John F Kennedy was a HOAX!

1. A bullet fired from the book depository would have have run out of fuel before it actually hit Kennedy.
2. If the gun that Lee Harvey Oswald supposedly used to assassinate Kennedy was real, it would have been so powerful it would have exploded.
3. When Oswald fired the rifle, it should have left a charred blast crater on the back of the book depository.
4. Oswald didn't possess sufficient computing power to navigate a bullet into Kennedy's head.
5. The bullet that struck Kennedy was powerful enough to blow off part of his head, but Jackie Kennedy survived completely intact.
6. The radiation generated by the heat of the gun fired would have been sufficient to kill Oswald in minutes.
7. If a bullet fired from a 44-caliber handgun can kill someone in a single shot, a bullet fired from a 6.5 mm Carcano Model 91/38 rifle should have killed everyone in the limousine.
8. The shadows of the gunmen on the grassy knoll cast nonparallel shadows.
9. There was no handle to open the doors on the presidential limo from the inside.
10. It was so hot in Dallas that day, that Zapruder's movie camera would have been melted and all of the people lining the streets would have burst into flame.
11. No one had assassinated the president while he was in a moving vehicle before. How could it have worked the first time?
12. If American politicians were being assassinated 50 years ago, we would still be doing so today.
13. If you slow down the footage of the actual bullet strike four times, it's just a dead squirrel being blown up with a firecracker superimposed onto footage of JFK's inauguration.
14. If the assassination were real, Lyndon Johnson would have had Lee Harvey Oswald hanged.
15. There are thousands of shooting ranges throughout the United States, where the assassination could have easily been hoaxed.
16. The 6.5 mm Carcano was such an inaccurate rifle, that most of the rounds fired by it would have flown back and struck Oswald.
17. The presidential limo had an engine in front, which would have prevented anyone from exiting it.
18. The American flags in the Zapruder film are blowing in the wind, even though it was too hot that day for any wind to blow.
19. You can see the strings suspending the bits of "brain matter" when JFK is fatally shot, and everyone in the limo turns into a rod puppet for a couple of frames.
20. The presidential limo was not big enough to store enough fuel for Kennedy's scheduled tour.
21. The autopsy pictures of Kennedy were of another body that had been baked in a radiation oven at 5,000 degrees.
22. If there had been a solar flare that day, Kennedy would have been killed by it, driving around with the top down.
23. We should have heard the gun firing in the Zapruder film, but the entire event seems curiously silent.
24. The presidential limo would have put out thick, black exhaust and left tire marks on the road wherever it traveled.
25. The presidential limo was so big and heavy, the driver could have never compensated for it's changing center of gravity as it burned fuel.

I think I might be getting my conspiracy theories mixed up. :hmmm:

I could accept one of two "ifs", but this case is full of them. Too many odd events that suggest something more. I think Oswald was part of it, but believe it highly possible others were involved.

Still, isn't it something Oswald was who he was, just happened to work at the perfect place when Kennedy came by.

:har:

So you keep saying. I would suggest doing a little research.

As I said, you seem to be latching onto the favorite theories without doing the slightest bit of investigation yourself.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/head.htm (warning: it's a bit graphic)

I've just finished watching the film several times. Yes, his head snaps back. The spray, however, clearly flies forward, consistent with the passage being from rear to front.

The bullet was mangled after travelling at an angle through the top of the skull. As to your "zigs like it had a tiny rocket motor in it"? Once again the slightest bit of research would show you otherwise.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-bullet_theory
Scroll down to see the pictures of possible bullet paths.

You have the temerity to say "Come on now"? [Citation please].

First, the video starts with James Files, who apparently is not even believed by the conspiracy theorists. That's not good.

He does spin a good tale, I'll give him that. His talk about the lunchroom doesn't take into account the fact that Oswald was the only employee who left the building before the police cordon was set up. The fact remains that Oswald killed officer J.D. Tippit when Tippit stopped him for questioning.

Again, nothing but conjecture on your part. How would you, or anyone, know they stayed quiet out of fear? Maybe they stayed quiet because they had nothing to say. How would you, or anyone, know others were silenced? They died. Some say the circumstances were suspicious. Were they? If they were, what does that prove?

Again, I'm not denying anything, or even taking sides. Of course the conspicacy theorists may be right. The problem is that they have yet to show a single bit of evidence that can't be explained by the accepted story.

Watch the video I posted, it pieces everything together.

Why did they do it in full of public? Because they knew the American public was overall gullible and likely did not take into account people like Zapruder as home movie cameras were still not the norm back them.Not like today where everyone has HD video on their cell phones.Plus, the men who likely orchestrated this, LBJ, Dulles, Helms etc had a high degree of disdain for the public and knew that with smoke and mirrors, president in a hostile state, a proper story with a patsy, they could win, especially in those days when public still have a naive trust in the government, which unfortunately many still have today, much like an abused wife who just can't stop loving his abusive partner and will not leave, people who still trust the US government are much like that.I understand it, no one wants to believe something like this could happen in the United States, this happens everywhere else but no here.

Oh you are wrong, eventually the truth will come out.There are reasons files were sealed until 30 or so years into this century, to give people time to die off.Amazes me how people will still blindly support the one shooter theory when evidence contradicts it.There dozens of witnesses who report fire from grassy knoll, the ballistics dispute the "one bullet theory" and like Jim Garrison said in the JFK Movie "Government may try to explain this bullet with theoretical physics, but theoretical physics could prove than an elephant could hang off a cliff by his tail wrapped around a daisy" lol, it was junk science used to muddy the waters on an misinformed, naive public.Most people can not tell what the federal reserve is, what it does, how it was formed, and how powerful it is.Most people only know the name Dulles due to the airport, they don't understand just how hated JFK was by the establishment.They don't understand, mainly because so much time has passed just how powerful these men were.J Edgar Hoover hated JFK and RFK.LBJ hated them as both and certainly did the bidding of the powers that be once the coup was completed. This had to be an inside job, since parade route was also changed to what would be a suitable ambush site.


The most likely scenario is that JFK was murdered in a plot initiated by Dulles, Helms, and federal reserve with the approval of LBJ.The assassins were likely cia trained or even mafia assets.Oswald, who had been trained by the ONI, was likely lead to believe he was part of an operation, and made the patsy, perhaps realized it and thus why he fled as it was unlikely no evidence to support he actually fired a shot, the palm print LATER found on the rifle is highly suspect, no chain of custody.

One other plausible scenario, is that a massive intelligence failure occurred, the plot lead back to Castro or Soviets and to avoid what would be a demand for war, it was covered up, which could also explain the secrecy to this day.

Sad part is no one will ever really be held accountable for his murder and an overthrow of the elected US government but truth and come out, can ensure history books read correctly and make sure the legacies of men like LBJ, Dulles, etc depict them for the traitors and thugs that they were.

I sort of agree with BH that there are a lot of unanswered questions about the assassination, including the "magic bullet" theory. Yes, it's possible, but it is a stretch.

Oliver Stone's "JFK", although it does go over the deep end does a good job about covering all the issues.

What has pretty much convinced me that Oswald acted alone is the fact that 50 years on, no documents or witnesses have appeared which support a conspiracy. Even in the Mafia or the Soviet Union, eventually someone talks about what happened.

p.s.- I am just barely old enough to remember the event. I was 8 at the time and did not understand what was going on, but I remember my parents having the TV on all the time and being very sad.

Same here. People talk. They become greedy or guilty or disenchanted. Loyalties shift. Death threats don't work on people who are already dead or about to die. A substantial number of people who would have had to be in on such a conspiracy have died. Yet among these, we find no safe deposit boxes with incriminating photos, memos or documents, no accounts of deathbed confessions. No such evidence sent abroad to a foreign nation where they could get an airing.

It was da' mob; Bobby was makin' waves and when da patsy didn't croak on schedule, in goes Jack Ruby?!!(the real smoking gun) ta finish da' job keep his omerta and die of cancer conveniently; LBJ and the military industrial complex were just 'Collateral beneficiaries' ala Teddy Roosevelt or the Radical Republicans when two previous presidents were whacked"! Business as usual in the land o' the free. I suspect too that the sins of the father(bootlegger Boston thug Joseph P.) were visited on the son(s) here as well...:shucks:

I was thinking of starting thread about JFK, however I would first have done this on either Thursday or Friday.

This case have intrigued me a lot, have read books and seen many documentary, even those conspiracy videos(and the funny ones from Red Dwarf)

Who's expert on this?? I'm not, so how did it?

Was LHO acting by him self?
Was LHO, being used as an scapegoat?
Was LHO a part of a bigger issue?

Some month ago I listen to Coast To Coast and in this show I heard that Hoffa, was erased from the earth because of his knowledge about the assassination of JFK. That was new to me.( of course this information is placed under the suspicious conspiracy stuff)

The most intersting book I have read is Jim Garrisons book.

Personally I have it hart to believe that LHO acted on his own.
Being a part of a group-yes, but alone- no.

I have a lot of information from all these books and videos, but what is real and what's not.

Is it real that the "tour of Dallas" was changed in the last moment? So instead of driving straight ahead, the car turned to the left and drove down the road on which he was shot? If this is true, how could LHO have know this.

So in this case I will not say that Bubble is not that wrong-not this time

One thing though It was not a Coup D'etat.

Markus

Yep, works for me...speculation ad nauseum.

Wash, spin, dry and repeat.

No, you don't understand it at all. A great many of us believe something like this could happen here. We're just waiting for the people who insist on this to show some actual proof. Fifty years on all they have is still smoke and mirrors of their own.

And it amazes me how people like you will blindly support the conspiracy theory when evidence contradicts it. I've shown the studies of the skull wound, and you'll barge on without answering it. You believe this because you want to, and once again you are exactly like the people you claim to be against.

Now let's look at some of those witnesses. Many of them gave conflicting testimony or made other claims that were patently false.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/witnesses.htm

I've already shown that to be false, and you continue to ignore it, as always.

Proof by dismissal through the statement of one non-scientist is no proof at all, except to you.

I've also shown that to be false, yet you continue to ignore it.

And you get points of law wrong fairly consistently, along with historical data, yet you continue to make dismissive statements like that. You believe what you're told and what you want to believe just as much as the people you insult.

Do you have any proof of that, other than claims made after the fact by conspiracy theorists?

Lots of people hate lots of people. They don't all kill each other (though some do) and that is only evidence to people like you who want to believe it.

"Had to be"? Do you have the slightest evidence for that, other than your own opinion? Once again, you claim your opinion as fact. Nothing "has to be" anything.

Again, "likely"? It's the scenario that fits what you want to believe. Show some real evidence, please. So far it's all your opinion.

Seinfeld's take on the "magic bullet"...:O:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBz3PqA2Fmc

No offense intended toward you, but that is also a show that presents people claiming to have been abducted by aliens.

That's a nice speculation, but so far Hoffa's remains have never been found, so he is officially missing. No trace of when he died or how.

The answer is that it's not true - the route wasn't changed at all.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/route.htm

Again people believe what they're told, and don't do the research for themselves. But it's not people believing the government, it's people believing the conspiracy buffs.

Here is the front page for the above link, and one of the best ones you'll read.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

I believe this more than any of the "other" theories.
http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/...=p&age=0&&tt=b

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikka_to_Ride

I've been hearing that since the 1970s when at least most of the conspiracy theories seemed fresh and new. Back then I devoured paperbacks and magazines on the subject. Four decades on and we are still stuck in the same tired swamp of anomaly, gossip and innuendo. For me it's gotten old like Roswell and the Apollo hoax.

When the final files are unsealed and something incriminating is found I'll eat my words. However, if nothing new is found I guarantee conspiracy theorist won't. They will scream foul, followed by another round of fresh conspiracy theories. Probably enough to sell books and videos and whatever future media well into the 22nd century.

Most of us would be delighted to hear a new theory about who actually killed Kennedy, if not Lee Harvey Oswald. However, what monumentally disappoints us is old information presented as if it were new. Most conspiracism works this way. A new crop of gullible readers devours it and pretends that because it is new to them, it's new to everyone. Maybe I'm a burnout case, but it's forty years on for me and it's all become old hat.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/225-230.gif

Here is one of the problem with the "magic bullet" theory. It shatters Connally's right wrist, but he is still holding on to his Stetson with it.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jbchit.htm

We all have an opinion in this issue

It could be right it could be wrong who knows?

Are any one of you some kind of expert in the fields that have to do with murder a.s.o(can't remember all these words)

I'm not, so I for one will not mock, laugh at an another member here in this thread.

I just have hard time to believe that Oswald did it one his own. That's my belief

Markus