Shoudn't this read "black overseers" or was the owner black? Doesn't sound special otherwise. :hmmm:

His point was the owner was black.

T'warnt civil neither!:up:

I already asked Soopa, so now I'm asking you - can we please leave that for the three Civil War threads we already have? This has absolutely zero to do with the Klan wanting to have a rally at Gettysburg.

Free blacks certainly could own and trade slaves, but small in comparison to large planters. In certain cities some wealthy blacks were more integrated in the white community, Charleston, NO, etc, but were never seen equal to whites.

Steve - it also has nothing to do with the Civil War. Not once did I mention the War of Northern Aggression in my post.

My response was only to correct the obvious erroneous statement regarding "honkies" - aka whites being the only ones who owned slaves or for whom "Live, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" applied. Given that there is documentation that shows whites were bought by blacks, such misinformation just continues a politically correct but historically inaccurate picture of slavery.

It was not only whites that owned slaves and it was not only in the "south". Which is why I ended the post as I did.

That's true, but you also didn't address his main point, which was that the people who cried the loudest about their own freedom also owned other human beings.

And you responded to his post, which I considered a derailment, so that applied double to yours, and I guess now applies triple to mine. :dead:

And here's me, just watching a film...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTcaRk0ZRJ4

Can we all stay on topic please.

TIA

is that the war that began when the northerners started shooting at people in fort sumter?

No, the one when an invading yankee army marched into Va.

Only if your calendar runs backwards for a week:O:
Still I suppose its better than that "War of Northern Aggression" neo confederate claptrap which started getting thrown around in the 1950s when them damn negroes were getting a bit uppity about their civil rights down south.

Oh and Jim
it is on topic, the Klan picked up on using that 1950s claptrap again at the end of the 70s with their more "modern" manifestation of the same old white supremacist bollox.

Well, my one ggg grandpappy fought for the South as a cause, the other one remained neutral living in the mountains of then Va. The yankees stole his brothers horses a few months after the war started. He joined Mosby and was later hung.

I do agree, the KKK is disgusting. I hate when they come here and do a rally once a year.

Disgusting they may be, but they do have rights of assembly (T&C apply) and the right of free speech(T&C apply). As long as they don't cross the lines of those conditions they can do as they like

To divert slightly. There was an idiot from bandit country up in Belfast court yesterday over some old flag waving civil war nonsense.
Pretty standard stuff he is charged with, incitement to hatred, incitement to commit crimes, illegal assembly, illegal possession of a weapon, obstructing traffic...he claims that those British laws are only meant to apply to muslims:rotfl2:

Ya mean Clark Gable and Yvonne de Carlo in 'Band of Angels'; Thomas Jefferson 'stirrin the stock' or just a routine 'Mandingo fantasy'- nobody uses 'serve da massa' anymore; please be politically correct! :o

Interesting historical sidenote. The largest membership of the Klan outside of the South was in southern Oregon.:dead:

Blame the person who was quoted:03:

Seems like the wise thing to do really. These sort of movements strive for media and public attention. If you don't like them - deny them what they want.