We have not seen a lot of signs of radical Muslims overseas, or even domestically being a follower of him.

He did not have a following, he was a follower. :yep:

Death is too quick of an out for him. I say stick him in a supermax jail cell forever. This sounds terrible:

http://i.imgur.com/ZilpG.gif

Hopefully he'll sit in one of those for 20 years or so until his appeals expire before he finally gets to be a martyr.

In this case of Nidal Hasan, almost everybody in this forum is qualified to make that judgement. Claiming one is not means to imply that 13 times murder means nothing.

And a "thinking like this gets people in trouble"? I do not buy into this socialist concept that people should be given what they want or need, and not according to what they deserve. I do not want mercy, but justice. And I prefer freedom over equality (the curse of the French revolution is that it made it appear exactly the other way around). If that is arrogant, then I hope my arrogance springs into everybody's eyes at first glance, for I cannot be arrogant enough then. It's an expression of man's reasonability and sense of fairness, then.

Reading about some people's idea of punishment, I see bloodthirst and cruelty rank high again today.

Unfortunately that does not turn him into a better being, but it makes you a worse one.

Determination is sufficient. Cruelty is not needed.

Give him a bullet, burn him to ashes, delete the record, forget him, turn to next item on the agenda.

I don't think anyone needs to be lectured on morality by a guy that advocates deliberately targeting the wives and children of enemy leaders. :nope:

Yet it does mean nothing in your little world.
You can't have it both ways.
This murderer claims he was fighting a war, you say there should be no rules to cover war and slaughter should be done without restriction, by any means, until the war is finished.
You have disqualified yourself from giving judgement by you own twisted ideology.

Doesn't look like that will happen anytime soon, the military is slow to do that!

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/fo...fore-execution

Should I take moral advise on how to fight in war against enemy leaders from somebody who has witnessed his nation living through three major strategic defeats?

:hmmm:

Ach nöööö... Preferably not. Maybe you fight politely. But you lose beautifully nevertheless a bit too often for my taste.

Perhaps in your Skytopia you could just cast him out, but since that is little more than a fanciful dream fueled by personal hang-ups, I would say, yes, you could stand to benefit from him lecturing you on morality.

http://i.imgur.com/ZilpG.gif


Hey, I think I saw a dorm room like that...


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I wasn't giving you advice. I was just pointing out that it's hypocrisy to lecture others about morals when you have none yourself.

I made that comment you quoted some years ago and in a context that expressed that the evil big guys tend to raise the stakes because the suffering does not reach them and the dying is done by their people and subordinates, not their family that may be dear to them. I wondered back then whether it would be different if it would not be just the ordinary people, but their own wife and children getting killed in the ongoing of a war. And I said back then that once the kids are old enough, it is stupid to let them live if they already have been risen in the spirit and mindset of their father so that they continue his deeds if the father is removed. I think I also said that even politicians in the West too easily vote for wars because they have no own family members exposed to the dangers, or have the power to buy them out of a draft system.

As long as you seem to imply by questioning my argument from back then (by quoting it out of context and thus, like you love to do so often, giving it a twist, a certain appearance that nevertheless distorts it) that you find it acceptable to have the suffering done by the ordinary population while leaving the closest inner family circle of those responsible for the bloodshed untouched, as long as you do not object to collateral damages killing hundreds and thousands because you refuse to accept killing the family members of the responsible evil leaders and teaching them the lesson of the war directly - as long as you think and argue that way, you have no moral authority whatever to lecture me or others about morality.

And try to quote people in context. That you often have misquoted me intentionally and out of context over the years, to score a cheap rhetoric point en passant, says more about yourself than it says about me.

Whatever Skybird, it doesn't change the fact that you have no business lecturing others on morality.