Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1928378)

A few years back I wrote that the Right, particlarly the Republican Right, attempst to define and redefine language in their political efforts. I was ridiculed by a few members, of which Haplo was not one, for this assertion.

Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1928267)

Evangelicals have zero tolerance to anyone who believes differently then they do.

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1929542)

Having the most powerful person in the world following a faith that is in direct contradiction of our countries history, law, culture, and interests is a threat to our country.

Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1929543)

So I presume you won't vote for Romney?

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1929547)

I believe Romney is more a cultural moron than anything.

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1929547)

I find all religions to be silly but some are certainly more of a threat than others, islam is one of them.I would not vote for Romney if I thought he was a real, hardcore Mormon but his life shows, from what I can tell, he is a reasonable man.I did not support him in the primary but I am okay with him as president, at least he understands basic, real world economics, unlike the current occupant of the white house or his cronies.

Originally Posted by Blacklight (Post 1929939)

Franky, it saddens me that a person can't get elected president in this country without being "religious" to a certain extent. An atheist, for instance, would NEVER be able to be elected in this country. A person's religion shouldn't even be coming into this debate. This country is built on the concept of "freedom of religion". There is also supposed to be a separation of church and state that the Religious Right seem to have forgotten.
I don't understand why it would be such a controversy and so horrible if someone who just happened to be of another religion aside from "Christian" or no religion at all were elected. To a certain HUGE demographic, it would be the end of civilization as we know it.
And what the far Right is doing to the Muslims is just plain wrong. All they're doing is adding to the fire that Joe Redneck who doesn't exist outside his own little protected world is kindling over his fear of anything not completely familiar to him in his closed little world.

Originally Posted by eddie (Post 1929947)

When Rep. Keith Ellison from Minnesota was sworn in, instead of having his hand on the Bible, he used a very historic copy of the Koran. You know who it originally belonged to? It was none other then Thomas Jefferson,lol

Ellison's district is mainly made up of Christian"s too!:D That district includes Minneapolis!

Originally Posted by August (Post 1928245)

It's not so much the religion itself but rather the lie he's told if the claim is true (I don't believe it BTW). Americans want their presidents to be seen as honest and truthful at all times.

It's why the Republicans were able to make so much political hay over Bill Clinton having sex with Monica Lewinsky. It wasn't the illicit sex itself, it wasn't even the desecration of the oval office, it was Clinton going on TV and wagging his finger in the face of the American people while telling them a bald faced lie. Had he come clean the issue would have quickly faded but his lie gave it legs far beyond it's expiration date.

That's also why the Democrats accused the Bush administration of deliberately lying about Saddams WMD instead of just being taken in by the same bad intel that they are on record as believing before he took office. Few would have cared if Bush was just wrong but when you add an element of deception and suddenly people care a great deal which was the whole point of making the accusation in the first place.

Had the parties been reversed in both situations the accusations would still have been made.