Watch it Alex.

The UN? Oh you mean the League of Nations baby brother.

The UN is crap, and it's worse than DC. The fact of the matter is the guy needs to go and the time is now. I'm tired of the same nonsense coming from the these radicals, and the same nonsense from the rest of the world.

If we let the world dictate what we need the world would be in sorry shape.

Cry "Lockerbie!" and let slip the... no, that isn't how that goes. :hmmm:

Cry "Vengeance!" and let sli... :-?:damn:

Cry "Screw you, world!" and bomb the crap out of a weaker... :huh: No, much too close to the truth. :shifty:



Why don't we just admit that we feel inadequate as a nation because we have to wear a dorky hat? :D

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/pict...pictureid=1878


No offense to Canada, and especially not the moose or bears of Canada. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/pict...pictureid=2388

Is there any reason why anyone should take you seriously?

I suppose yet again you take issue with something I've said? Try as I might you and I just don't get along do we?

Tell me, why should I take your seriously?

On another note that drawing is hilarious what is that from?

Scandanavia and the World. :) Here's the comic that I got that from:

http://satwcomic.com/merry-christmas

:) that's pretty good I'll have to read more of those!

I like this one, even though its not PC:

http://satwcomic.com/not-a-yahtzee

:D

That's a good one - and the reason why we call the game "Kniffel" here...:O:

I see what you really said there.
One good shot deserves another Frenchy:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zp0h1YAc0C...rench_frog.jpg

It is of course funny that both the President and VP were both against any "unilateral" action on the part of the Executive branch (and unilateral in the clear terms of the question and answer back then meant Congress vs Executive, it had nothing at all to do with other nations).

I'm willing to cut them some slack on their weak action (clearly the time to "act!" was earlier rather than later), but they should explicitly apologize to the Bush Administration for their smack-talk.

Can be low-key, they can say at a press conf, "Ya know, back in 200X (whatever year it was), I talked some smack from the cheap seats about the President acting without the permission of congress. Now that I really understand what executive decision making is about, it turns out me earlier statements were rash."

I think that the power of Congress to declare war, is a very specific wording and separate from allowing military action. OTOH, back in the day, there was no standing army, so to do military action, the President needed to first raise an army. Even the early USN ships were not ready to sail at all times to save money—though some were usually ready with masts stepped, yards crossed, etc.

Giving the current president exactly what he gave the previous one is sorta funny. You know the dems would do it were the tables turned (since we have the Biden and Obama quotes to prove it). Calling him to the carpet for HIS hypocrisy is totally legit, though I think it's a Commander in Chief decision to make and won't attack him on having the power to make it.

My point is that like many others here, you make pronouncements concerning what is wrong with our country, yet you can't even use your own language properly. It's not what you said, it's how you failed to say it.




My other point is that Haplo, who if I remember correctly is an acknowledged Conservative, took his own side to task for wanting it both ways and being more concerned with being right than with doing anything worthwhile, is answered with a string of posts that had nothing to do with what he said. It's not often that the OT starts with post #2, and not one person addresses the OP.

I'm not being cranky, believe it or not. I just found it funny.

I have had a chance to look into this a bit more and I really dont see the issue or any contradiction with President Obama's previous position:

1. the issue in 2003 was the fact that President Bush was committing the USA to unilateral action without UN authority:

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack...;s_Iraq_Speech

In 2011, you have a specific UN resolution and a broad international coalition;



2. President Obama has fulfilled all of the requirements under the War Powers Act of 1973:

http://www.thecre.com/fedlaw/legal22/warpow.htm

sec. 5 (a) only requires the President to report to the speaker (Bohner), which was done last friday, and the president of the Senate (Biden).

sec. 5 (b) then provides that he has 60 days to either cease military action or obtain authorization from Congress.



You really have to look at this from a skewed partisan viewpoint to see a problem..:hmmm:

What a hash up. What a confused and disingenuous stew of hypocrisy and stupidity.

Apparently we are now functioning as close air support for Libyan Rebels comprised of elements of the Muslim Brotherhood and quite possibly Al Qaeda. US Planes flying in support of one of the major contributors to the foreign fighters in Iraq.

Way to go Man Child.
In The Meantime China and Russia Warn Of All Out War (Over US Involvement in Libya) FROM EU Times ((WITH VIDEO OF CHINESE WARSHIPS OFF THE COAST OF LIBYA)
http://www.eutimes.net/2011/03/china...omment-page-1/

Is it time to run yet ?

Hooray for mankind! :roll:
:damn::damn::damn:

90% of my post on a given day are from my iphone when I'm one break and having a cig. Which means they are hurried and my iphone tends to out think itself and correct what I have said, and most of the time I'm in to much of a hurry to catch or correct it.

Heck I texted a friend the other day who told me he got the rent house he had bid for. I texted him, "That's Awesome!", what did my iphone autocorrect and send instead, "That's Caesar". Perhaps my "smart"phone has grown a sense of humor for itself, while annoying that had both of us in stitches for the better part of the work day, its also now an inside joke within our group. If something is cool or "awesome" we say that's Caesar. Mark my words that will be the new fad!

Back on topic though. Perhaps this thing in Libya is the spark that is going to ignite WW3? The assassination of the Austrian Duke, The Invasion of Poland, The Intervention in Libya?

Okay, you win! :rotfl2:

I've heard of that disease, and it really does trump all.

Okay, now you're scaring me... :DL

You and me both brother, cause if there is a WW3 then that means we are going to have to draft. I've got prior and I'm still young.

But as have happened other times in the last 100 years, hope against hope that cooler heads will prevail.

well, at least this time is a UN operation, and no some crazy "were gonna go on a lone rampage in the middle east" like last time. UN calls for a no fly zone, We are a large part of the UN, Obvious that we lend a hand.

Ah how fondly I remember the "rampage through the middle east" I took, and how happy alot of people were when I was there, in the fact that we were there.

Gee funny how perspectives can change.

OK I may make a thread do discuss the legality of the libya action.

TY to Sailor Steve who recognized what I was saying:

Politicians are still playing politics in Washington, good - bad or ugly - when we have things they should be doing.

Disagree with what we are doing in libya, congress? Defund it.

Agree with it? Then shut up with all the whining.

Have a problem with how it was done, raise the true legal issue that exists.

Don't just castigate a guy for "not doing the job" and then yell that he did it wrong when he did what you wanted him to.

Yes, Obama is being hypocritical since he slammed his predecessor for the same thing. However, he is now sitting at the big boy table and has a clearer understanding than he did from his 1 seat out of a hundred in the senate.

But the left and the right both - on the legislative side - are continuing to do the same thing - wasting time with self serving whining instead of focusing on the issues at hand.

Goes to show why we should R.E.N.O (Re-Elect No One).