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-   -   Well you know some one has to ask - waht about the twisty periscope thingy? (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=166546)

Madox58 04-14-10 08:27 PM

What about it?
:hmmm:

kylania 04-14-10 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1360186)
What about it?
:hmmm:

I think the question is can you "deploy" or "raise" it, as in here:

http://www.uboat.net/photos/u67.jpg

Should it rotate too? This pic seems to indicate that:

http://www.richiekohler.com/u869/ima...aining%204.JPG

Kptlt_Lynch 04-14-10 09:25 PM

Yes, it should rotate.

They managed it in SH3 to have it up and rotating... a super cool detail.
I'm sure it's possible in SH5, just no idea how.

LukeFF 04-15-10 04:10 AM

Getting the DF loop to animate shouldn't be hard to do, in theory. If someone else doesn't take a stab at it I'll take a look (after the patch is released).

oscar19681 04-15-10 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeFF (Post 1358999)
Yes, this is something I'm not sure about. I have seen one photo in which the caption claims the periscope pictured with the wires is the observation one, but the angle at which the shot was taken makes this conclusion a shaky one. I'm going to keep looking to see if I can find more conclusive evidence.

Its only the attack scope that had the twisted thingy. Just read u-boat war patrol. It features a page that cleary shows (and also writen) That only the attack scope featured this to reduce the periscope wake by sucking the wake into the water a bit . But since the observation scope was only used in bad weather or night-time and thus the wake would make no differance it would not need the thingy.

Madox58 04-15-10 08:44 AM

You should be able to add the Watchman controller or maybe the
GenericAxisRotation Controller with Goblin.
You'll also need to add the obj_extensible controller.
Only the square Radars have this in the sim.

Madox58 04-15-10 11:30 AM

Here's a picture that clearly shows the Twisty on both scopes.
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...ave0003-26.jpg

This is from a type XXI

kylania 04-15-10 12:32 PM

So the VII had it only on the attack, but later boats on both perhaps?

Sailor Steve 04-15-10 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kptlt_Lynch (Post 1358774)
You gotta be kidding........

why the heck didn't they release it that way!!

I thought someone would actually have to make it for a mod. If it's already there but turned off I'm guessing that the first boats didn't have them, and it was a later addition.

If that's true then we need to find out exactly when they were installed, so we can put them in at the right time.

scl 04-15-10 02:11 PM

Great fix for the "twisty-turny-thing". I'm about to edit and try it for myself.

BTW, according to one of my books (U-Boats Under the Swastika - Showell, p32) "The wires around the periscope were supposed to have added additional stability by spiralling the flow of water around it".

Thanks for the headsup!

subaxe 04-15-10 02:21 PM

Installed on my attack scope.

Looks good

Thanks

:yeah:

Hitman 04-15-10 02:33 PM

It seems that at least it wasn't in the observation scope of the Type VIIC, but as Privateer showed, it certainly was in the XXI. Probably it simply depended on the model of periscope installed, or was later added as general feature.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9...wistything.jpg

Madox58 04-15-10 03:13 PM

I've also got a picture of an IXB showing the observation scope with this.
This is the U-106, Type IXB
Picture was taken sometime between September 1940-October 1941
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...2006/U-106.jpg

U-875 and U-805 which were both Type IX D2 also show this on both scopes at wars end.

A picture of U-79, a Type VIIC, may have this on both scopes also.
But it's not a good enuff picture to say for sure as the top of the scope is cut off.
And the picture is taken from the front looking back at the Turm.
So even it's postion in the Turm is uncertain.

TheDarkWraith 04-15-10 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scl (Post 1360911)
Great fix for the "twisty-turny-thing". I'm about to edit and try it for myself. Thanks for the headsup!

already edited all my subs (even the AI ones) and both scopes on each sub. Excellent find :yeah:

oscar19681 04-15-10 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1361015)
I've also got a picture of an IXB showing the observation scope with this.
This is the U-106, Type IXB
Picture was taken sometime between September 1940-October 1941
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...2006/U-106.jpg

U-875 and U-805 which were both Type IX D2 also show this on both scopes at wars end.

A picture of U-79, a Type VIIC, may have this on both scopes also.
But it's not a good enuff picture to say for sure as the top of the scope is cut off.
And the picture is taken from the front looking back at the Turm.
So even it's postion in the Turm is uncertain.

Negative. You are misinformed . What it shows (in the pictue) is the attack scope extened. The the obs scope is always to the front in u-boats. It seems to me that judging from the tower it actually is a type VIIC.

Madox58 04-15-10 06:37 PM

You better check Blueprints for the type IX boats.
:03:
The Observation scope is NOT at the front of the Turm.
:DL

And if you check the Emblem?
That's a dead giveaway of which U-Boat it is.
http://uboat.net/special/emblems/u106.html

LukeFF 04-15-10 06:44 PM

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/p...geek/witte.jpg

U-759, Type VIIC. Both scopes have the wires.

Madox58 04-15-10 06:54 PM

Nice find!
:salute:

rascal101 04-16-10 02:53 AM

What is this man doing in his underpants!
 
What is this man doing in his underpants! - and a scarf!!!

One can only guess at the standard of behavious on this boat

I begin to suspect why Germany lost the war - this is an outrage!

R



Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitman (Post 1360954)
It seems that at least it wasn't in the observation scope of the Type VIIC, but as Privateer showed, it certainly was in the XXI. Probably it simply depended on the model of periscope installed, or was later added as general feature.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9...wistything.jpg


panosrxo 04-19-10 09:32 AM

The wired observation periscope is lower than the normal one. That results in seeing underwater at maximum height...Tried on my VIIA boat:D


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