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onelifecrisis 01-29-10 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JU_88 (Post 1251518)
Well I dont think anyone really 'likes' DRM, there are those against and those who will tolerate.

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Originally Posted by JU_88 (Post 1251518)
I think its really inconsiderate of those who cannot access Broadband due to there location. hell its bordering on discrimination if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by JU_88 (Post 1251518)
Speaking for myself, I will purchase SHV regardless, I want to support the franchise, I want to support the fantastic Romanian dev team and Im also exited to have a new subsiming exerience.

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Originally Posted by JU_88 (Post 1251518)
Im not worried about the DRM in terms of my own internet connetion as only get D/C'd one in a blue moon, and when i do its nothing that a quick router reboot wont fix.

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Originally Posted by JU_88 (Post 1251518)
However I do worry about the reliablity of Ubi's servers...

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Originally Posted by JU_88 (Post 1251518)
One last thing, most those who do download games illegally, were probabaly never going to buy it anyway- they just would have gone without. Dont get me wrong I condemn those who do -as it is still basically stealing. But its wrong to assume that every illegal download equals the loss of sale, IMHO this simply isnt the case.

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:o
Say something I disagree with. Go on I dare ya.

tater 01-29-10 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Flegmatica (Post 1251568)
All of this could only mean one thing. Ubi doesn't care of satisfaction of consumers, they care about money.

That's their job. I'm 100% fine with that, actually. If they cared about anything else I'd be concerned, actually. Satisfaction only matters as it pertains to generating revenue. The corollary is that the only way to express an opinion to them is to not buy something.

Steam or other distribution ideas are a separate issue. This OSP thing only helps the bottom line if the net sales increase because of OSP. Or more precisely to this debate if the requirement that everyone be connected to play actually increases sales.

Everything else aside, the connection requirement is the ONLY real issue here. If that requirement alone does not increase sales, OSP is a failure (this folds in the idea of criminals (pirates) deciding to pay and hence increasing net sales).

I should be clear that this also includes sales for future products since I in fact think this is more of a data mining thing than anti-piracy. Knowing our gaming habits is valuable data, and they will know all about your gaming habits, even which fish you prefer, and at what range ;) .

JU_88 01-29-10 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis (Post 1251574)
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Say something I disagree with. Go on I dare ya.

Um...ok... Ducks are actually made entirely out of sand and polystyrene :D

karamazovnew 01-29-10 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JU_88 (Post 1251613)
Um...ok... Ducks are actually made entirely out of sand and polystyrene :D

I KNEW IT!!!!
Evidence:
http://www.spiritsdancing.com/portfo...ges/ducks2.jpg

Who's crazy now ha?!!!

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r-bunny-16.jpg

JU_88 01-29-10 03:30 PM

:haha::haha:

sergei 01-29-10 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tater (Post 1251580)
I should be clear that this also includes sales for future products since I in fact think this is more of a data mining thing than anti-piracy. Knowing our gaming habits is valuable data, and they will know all about your gaming habits, even which fish you prefer, and at what range ;) .

And here we get to the heart of what this is.
DRM systems exist that do not require 24/7 connections to the game producers servers.

It is not about protecting their intellectual rights, but about gathering marketing data.

If that is what it is, then damn well admit it.

At the end of the day I can either accept it or not.
That is my choice as a consumer, and your choice as a producer.
And you are right. The world will continue on without me.

But please, try to credit me with a little bit of intelligence will you.

Do not pretend you are adding value to your product when in fact you are restricting my ability to enjoy it.

mookiemookie 01-29-10 04:05 PM

http://imgur.com/BRNFU.jpg

Randomizer 01-29-10 04:08 PM

I don't like it and will not buy it thereby voting with my wallet but come on people this continued moral outrage is really over the top.

Suspect that UBISoft knows full well that they are alienating a significant portion of their Silent Hunter fan base and just do not care. SH5 is obviously aimed at the RPG loving kids with the wireless Internet and the big bucks.

Final say on OSP/DRM from this call sign...

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...5&postcount=31

Cheers

sergei 01-29-10 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Randomizer (Post 1251728)
I don't like it and will not buy it thereby voting with my wallet but come on people this continued moral outrage is really over the top.


Yeah, you are right.
I don't like it either, but will not be buying it due to cold hard facts.
(My internet connection seems to be made from a bit of string and two tin cans.)
But, I'll stop bitching about it.

You're right randomizer. Arguing against this is probably like arguing about capitalism.
Sure,you may like/dislike (delete as applicable) it, bit it ain't gonna make any difference is it?

ETR3(SS) 01-29-10 05:22 PM

Moderators, please lock this thread and let it die. It is clear some people didn't read the guidelines for this thread before posting.:nope:


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