Calling for a boycott and telling someone to boycott a game are two different things. I don't recall reading any post telling (aka demanding) people to boycott SH5.

I simply point you here

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...0&postcount=17

Under that logic Subsim could never give a negative game review.

an honest in depth review is one thing.

a full on boycott war is a total other issue:salute:

But SubSim wouldn't be waging such a war.

No more than subsim is waging a war against 'political party x' when
someone in General Topics says people shouldn't vote for them.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160798

This discussion ends here for me.

with respect,

~GR

I'm sorry but I fail to see how a personal opinion of a subsim member applies to my comment. Also IMHO it seems pretty obvious at times what Ubisoft marketing thinks of their "good relations" with subsim.com

Wow, you wanna job? :up:

Simply this, guys: boycotts are the nuclear weapon of community activism. People as individuals can determine for themselves if they want to buy a game or not.

You are right, but the core mission statement for Subsim has always been, to support sub game developers and the people who play subsims. Politics and sub games are apples and oranges.

Exactly....so why the need for censorship?

Subsim is Ubisoft's bitch. :DL

See Post #28

Editorial stance.

Ha ha.

Shhhhhhhhhhh you might get censored for telling the truth. :rotfl2:

because the buck stops at Neal's desk:salute:

thats the reason

;)

Hmmm... cheap shots now, Golderak?

I don't see any significant reason to boycott the game.
I'll buy it :sunny:

You know, the site owner has given his explaination. You don't have to like it or agree with it, but snide remarks and childish behavior demean us all. I like to believe that we are all above that here.

My full support to Neal's decisions. I know they're being specially tough regarding the latest conversations around here. :up:

Maybe its because boycotts of this kind simply dont work anyway.

Look at it though Ubis eyes.

There have been calls to 'boycott' just about every new release on every forum of every sucessful game franchise where expectations are high. Whats going on here with SHV is no different.

Even if a Publisher the size of Ubi really wanted to pay attention to our little niche (0.1% of the market) corner of the web, a boycott would be unlikely to phase them.
If someone is not going to buy a product then they will not be staging a protest to see improvements made to it.
Boycott threats just means you care, it even demonstrates you are fanatical, which probabaly means you are still going to buy it anyway.
And even if you dont... the other 99.9% will so its no big deal.

IMHO, Indifference and non-intreast would scare a Large Publisher a hell of alot more than a protest.
In the creative industries a bad reaction is better than no reaction.

Not allowed? you don't get it?
 

Not allowed? you don't get it?

Ok, no offence to anyone here, but all this sounds so silly to me.

I really don't think it's about Ubisoft, I think it's about any publisher/developer of any submarine simulation.

What I understand from subsim.com is that it promotes, shares and give news about any submarine simulations.

If I was the owner of this site and if I wanted this place to grow, I don't think it would be very clever to be associated with a boycott of any publisher/developer (it could be hard later on to have some privileged info...).

BTW it's not like if there were so many submarine simulations on the market right now...