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GoldenRivet 10-07-09 12:11 AM

or give away a DVD or include on the disc - the making of SHV with developer commentary - concept art - special features etc. sort of like you might expect to see on a movie.

Nexus7 10-07-09 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomen (Post 1185007)
I'd take a U-Boot Kriegsabzeichen, or a U-Boot Frontspange. :D

Me too :rock:

JScones 10-07-09 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TDK1044 (Post 1184137)
It's no big deal to Tri-Star/Columbia pictures. They already have multiple versions of the movie pressed. If Ubisoft offered them a half decent deal then there's no reason not to do it. All they'd have to do is ship the DVDs. The movie is more than 20 years old, so I can't imagine that actor residuals are a problem. They just need to push for it.

No big deal to Sony Pictures (the entity that would make such decisions)? Essentially you are suggesting that they enter a deal with an unrelated and unestablished product. They have a lot to risk, not least reputation. Besides, what would they get out of the deal, remembering that they are a corporate organisation that exists solely for profit and appeasing their shareholders, and SH5 has no connection with any of their products.

Frankly, just because the subject of both is the same doesn't make it a good match. What such a coupling does is imply to the market that you are trying to capture that SH5 is a video game version of Das Boot, the movie, with the same level of "action and excitement" and characters...so imagine the potential outcry when said buyer finds himself sailing empty seas for hours on end (and with no Johann). I doubt Ubisoft would want to set themselves up for that kind of reaction. And I doubt Sony Pictures would be keen to promote such a very tenuous connection either; they get no return at all for taking on such risk.

This is besides the obvious licensing, production and logistical issues that would have to be addressed. Even a more logical approach of striking a deal with Sony to include a "$5 off Das Boot" voucher makes no business sense for either entity, when you consider market size and potential return on investment.

IMHO Ubisoft has this market sussed out well - offer a standard AU$89.95 priced package as well as a fancy AU$129.95 deluxe package for the more "hard core" players. Ubisoft realises that most of us will buy both, or at least the deluxe edition. By taking this approach they, in very simplistic terms (just to be clear to those marketing strategists that I am being simplistic) double, or at least increase, sales just through milking the same core market.

Hands up everyone that has two copies of SH4.

With this strategy in mind, why would they need all the other hassles?

The real question then becomes, how can they milk the core market more by enticing them to buy the fancier edition?

Someone mentioned including a U-boat Badge. Cost price $10. IMHO a nice incentive for the "should I/shouldn't I" crowd. A DVD including public domain footage and "making of" type documentary grabs a few more. Add a whiz wheel and you've got the hardcorers by the nuts. Charge $40 more for $20 more of product, and there's your obvious strategy.

Rosencrantz 10-07-09 04:42 AM

Das Boot? I thought everyone have it already... :O:


Greetings,
-RC-

JU_88 10-07-09 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones (Post 1185153)
No big deal to Sony Pictures (the entity that would make such decisions)? Essentially you are suggesting that they enter a deal with an unrelated and unestablished product. They have a lot to risk, not least reputation. Besides, what would they get out of the deal, remembering that they are a corporate organisation that exists solely for profit and appeasing their shareholders, and SH5 has no connection with any of their products.

Frankly, just because the subject of both is the same doesn't make it a good match. What such a coupling does is imply to the market that you are trying to capture that SH5 is a video game version of Das Boot, the movie, with the same level of "action and excitement" and characters...so imagine the potential outcry when said buyer finds himself sailing empty seas for hours on end (and with no Johann). I doubt Ubisoft would want to set themselves up for that kind of reaction. And I doubt Sony Pictures would be keen to promote such a very tenuous connection either; they get no return at all for taking on such risk.

This is besides the obvious licensing, production and logistical issues that would have to be addressed. Even a more logical approach of striking a deal with Sony to include a "$5 off Das Boot" voucher makes no business sense for either entity, when you consider market size and potential return on investment.

IMHO Ubisoft has this market sussed out well - offer a standard AU$89.95 priced package as well as a fancy AU$129.95 deluxe package for the more "hard core" players. Ubisoft realises that most of us will buy both, or at least the deluxe edition. By taking this approach they, in very simplistic terms (just to be clear to those marketing strategists that I am being simplistic) double, or at least increase, sales just through milking the same core market.

Hands up everyone that has two copies of SH4.

With this strategy in mind, why would they need all the other hassles?

The real question then becomes, how can they milk the core market more by enticing them to buy the fancier edition?

Someone mentioned including a U-boat Badge. Cost price $10. IMHO a nice incentive for the "should I/shouldn't I" crowd. A DVD including public domain footage and "making of" type documentary grabs a few more. Add a whiz wheel and you've got the hardcorers by the nuts. Charge $40 more for $20 more of product, and there's your obvious strategy.


I gotta say that I agree with 'Scones' sceptism here, if a game/movie combo deal made any kind financial sense, i reckon it would have done a million times over by now- especially with Movie Licence games, i.e. - like Batman vengence being bundled with batman Arkam asylum, its same subject matter but not the same thing.

Im certainly not against the idea, i just dont see it happening...

Another set back is that being 80s flick - Das Boot is a movie that just about everyone has already seen, its been of TV like a zillion times...
This is especially true of us hard core Uboat fanatics here; hands up if you dont own or haven seen Das Boot?
...yet we would be the target audiance for this combo package...
Speaking for myself, i already have the DVD and I'm not sure that I would want to pay for a second copy.

TDK1044 10-07-09 09:43 AM

How about a WONKA GOLDEN TICKET idea? Ubisoft places sub shaped Golden Gift Certificates of the equivilent value of the game in each Country (for in store purchases only) in 100 copies of the game worldwide.

Of course, you could use the certificate as partial or full payment for anything other than Silent Hunter 5. It would certainly stir up some interest. :)

AVGWarhawk 10-07-09 09:51 AM

http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/200...ldenticket.gif

FIREWALL 10-07-09 11:39 AM

Whiz wheel : pennies to UBI

Use by me : Priceless :DL

TDK1044 10-07-09 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1185319)


The 100 tickets could be numbered, and one of the tickets is hidden somewhere in the sub in the game. Whoever has the ticket that matches up with the one hidden in the game get's to fly out and meet the Devs in Ubisoft Romania. :DL

FIREWALL 10-07-09 12:11 PM

I'd prefer Tahiti, thankyou very much. :D

TDK1044 10-07-09 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL (Post 1185387)
I'd prefer Tahiti, thankyou very much. :D

I know, but the Devs could potentially be stuck with one of us for a day!!! That would scare the hell out of them!:DL

FIREWALL 10-07-09 12:15 PM

First a Thank You to Gutted :salute:

This would cost UBI pennies and could fit in game case :

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=156698


edit: And look at Hitmans w-wheels :woot: :salute:

FIREWALL 10-07-09 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL (Post 1185389)
First a Thank You to Gutted :salute:

This would cost UBI pennies and could fit in game case :

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=156698


edit: And look at Hitmans w-wheels :woot: :salute:



bump

Akula4745 10-07-09 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL (Post 1184277)
I want something that can really happen.

A cheap plastic AOB/Wiz wheel is something we really might get if we all ask for it.

Or waste their and our time with some dream stuff and get nothing.

I vote for the plastic AOB dial...

java`s revenge 10-08-09 09:27 AM

I choose for the plastic AOB tool and i want to pay for it.

JU_88 10-08-09 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDK1044 (Post 1185315)
How about a WONKA GOLDEN TICKET idea? Ubisoft places sub shaped Golden Gift Certificates of the equivilent value of the game in each Country (for in store purchases only) in 100 copies of the game worldwide.

Of course, you could use the certificate as partial or full payment for anything other than Silent Hunter 5. It would certainly stir up some interest. :)


Yes the golden Ticket winners win a trip to Ubisoft Romania,
Where Dan will greet them wearing a dappa 1930s suit complete with a top hat and a cane, he will then give them a tour around their office to demonstrate how SHV was created using machinary that functions in some scientifically impossible way.

The rest of the Dev team will have painted them selves orange (unless they are already that colour from drinking too much Red bull)
and will dance around singing songs (with moral undertones), every time someone pisses them off with an annoying request.

Finally Dan will hand over the keys to the office - to the least annoying golden ticket winner, before he steps in to his gravity defying glass elevator which transports him to his magical retirement castle in the clouds... to live happliy ever after. :o

Dont forget to bring uncle Joe.

(The only problem is that Ubi might have a policy or three in place - against the use of illegal drugs on company premises)

FIREWALL 10-08-09 11:16 AM

AOB/Whiz Wheel = Possible

Golden Tickets to Neverland = Impossible

Lets keep it real and something costing pennies just might makeit into " EVERYONES " game case.

And SHV still at a reasonable price. :salute:

Jimbuna 10-09-09 04:36 PM

Has anybody mentioned the cuddly toy? :hmmm:

FIREWALL 10-09-09 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1186774)
Has anybody mentioned the cuddly toy? :hmmm:

Doe's it fit in the game case ? :hmmm:


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