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Originally Posted by Skybird

The level of totally derailed hostility and almost irrational hate tirades against Obama,

I think this perception is way out of line although I can see why you would feel that way seeing as how the media portrays the crowds.

In fact I have first hand knowledge of the crowds attitude at the washington march and I can say that it was not hostile nor irrational. In fact they were quite upbeat, friendly, and resolute.

Your being played, and played quite well I might add.

Besides its Jimmy Carter for christs sake. Where did they find him to trott out on this issue?

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo (Post 1173172)

The protagonist of this fable is a bored ex-president who entertains himself by calling out "Racism!" People who hear of it come running, only to find the alarms are false and that they had wasted their time. When the ex-president is actually confronted by racism, the people will not believe his cries.

Crying wolf as it were.

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Besides its Jimmy Carter for christs sake. Where did they find him to trott out on this issue?

Exactly. I would not look for advise from Carter on what laundry detergent to use. He is that bad and that out of touch not only when he ran the country into the ground for 4 years but even today.

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1173008)

... and I think since quite a while now that that assessment is absolutely right. The level of totally derailed hostility and almost irrational hate tirades against Obama, comparing him to the worst criminals and massmurderes in the history of mankind, cannot be just differing opinion.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8258011.stm

What you see in many pictures about opposition to Obama, his policy or his person, often is nothing else but unveiled hate. That Republicans line up with such sentiments tells you somethign about their political self-understanding and missionary spirit that makes them believe that they and only they have the right to hold power, and that voting against them is almost unnatural.

That there would be angry opposition to Obama, was to be expected. But that it reaches that far, would bturn so shamelessly public and unhidden, becomes so unforgivingly hostile and irrational and hysteric, is a big desillusionment about the United States's freedom and political culture.

Somebody who abuses his freedoms for such excesses as we see in the opposition to Obama, must accept the question if he is really ripe enogh to deserve them.

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And no, I am no big Obama fan, I see his record so far very critically, and in parts as misled and dangerous. I always said he is a great speaker, but as a political acxtor is overestimated, so that he necessarily must fail. and in parts that is his own guilt, since he certainly helped to push expectations up beyond what was reasonable.

And that, would make you for some on the fringe left a... wait for it... a racist. ;)

Dang Thomen....you pretty much nailed it on the head. Double standard certainly. We will chalk it up to the long term memory loss that Americans seem to have inherited through the years. We will chalk it up to complete memory loss and babblings of an old man named Jimmy Carter.

Someone has gone off the reservation when it comes to the narrative of what racism is all about. Oops, I used the word reservation.

When I see a promenent democrat decry a republican outburst as racism, all I really see is a fearfull group that realizes that outburst has got their dream boy by the balls. I see a last ditch effort to detract from the validity of the outburst.

How can a character truth be racism? His outburst was not directed at a race. Also consider would that remark have been made if Obama was a white president touting the same healthcare plan? I think so. Just look to previous presidential speeches and outburst and other such shenanigans by both sides when the other side is in power. The outburst was a political move and not racially motivated at all.

This is the democrat bandwagon circling around defend one of their own. Trying to cover up truth about Obama's character and his long term intentions in this bill/speech, all in an effort to preserve the power of the democratic party.

Jimmay Carter = Prominent Democrat

Wow I knew they had troubles but ... just wow.

OK, anyone who cares what Jimmy Carter says please raise your hand.

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1173290)

Jimmay Carter = Prominent Democrat

Wow I knew they had troubles but ... just wow.

Lets give the man some credit. Jimmy Carter is often refered to as our worst president, and in that respect he is prominent.

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo (Post 1173295)

Lets give the man some credit. Jimmy Carter is often refered to as our worst president, and in that respect he is prominent.

Worked for peanuts.

Carter is senile. And Racist himself. Video doesn't lie. 'This black boy'.

Flashback Video: Carter referred to Obama as 'this black boy'

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblo...ama-black-boy/

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo (Post 1173297)

Carter is senile. And Racist himself. Video doesn't lie. 'This black boy'.

Flashback Video: Carter referred to Obama as 'this black boy'

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblo...ama-black-boy/

God...I remember that one. Nice on Jimmy! Idiot....

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo (Post 1173297)

Carter is senile. And Racist himself. Video doesn't lie.

Flashback Video: Carter referred to Obama as 'this black boy'

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblo...ama-black-boy/

We had this discussion when he made that comment. AFAIR, the general consensus was that he did not mean it in any racist way.

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Originally Posted by Thomen (Post 1173299)

We had this discussion when he made that comment. AFAIR, the general consensus was that he did not mean it in any racist way.

Well..we had a dicussion on 'YOU LIE' and determined it was not racist. Certainly less credibility of being racists as compared to 'This black boy.' That is what makes this so incredibility stupid.

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Originally Posted by Thomen (Post 1173299)

We had this discussion when he made that comment. AFAIR, the general consensus was that he did not mean it in any racist way.

So its OK to call a black man 'boy'? Try that in your nieghborhood and see where that gets you?

“BOY” is not a term of affection, but a term of referring to a black male. The term became so offensive, that black jazz artists started referring to themselves as “MAN”. Thus the much used term MAN.

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1173008)

Your analysis is some of the worst I've seen on this matter. It's utter nonsense really. The fact is, alot worse has been said about the previous President. And worse comparisons made. Even though I think comparing different Presidents to Germany's Hitler is not exactly appropriate, it's safe to say Obama is overreaching in many areas, and is attempting unnecessary fundamental changes not compatible with freedom or prosperity. More like mass government dependancy and welfare.

And it doesn't help with the people he's surrounded himself with. Communists (Van Jones), outright racists (Wright) and leftwing loonies (ala Cass Sunstein). It's the policy and people within ultimately that people are ticked off with. Your opinion on it is merely a diversion....and just outright nonsense.

This analysis is just crap. Yeah, I would be okay with these hideous Democrat policies if they were coming from a white man. :doh:

Get real dude.

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1173302)

Well..we had a dicussion on 'YOU LIE' and determined it was not racist. Certainly less credibility of being racists as compared to 'This black boy.' That is what makes this so incredibility stupid.

Agreed.

I know for a fact that in the Navy you CAN NOT call a black man "boy" or "son" because it is classified as being racist. And as for the "You lie!" outburst, he just said what we all knew anyways. Politicians lie, nothing new. As for Jimmy, I wonder what made Rickover decide that this guy could operate a nuclear reactor?

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As for Jimmy, I wonder what made Rickover decide that this guy could operate a nuclear reactor?

:har: