Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1137990)

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_illegal_donations/2008/10/19/141979.html

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/Obama_fundraising_illegal/2008/09/29/135718.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/donations.asp


look my link posty thing works too :D w00+
all im saying is - without regard to "whos guy it is"
- if a lot ... hell if ANY... of his campaign money came from undisclosed overseas interests, wouldnt you want to know WHO it was :06:

and why is he not telling?

something to hide?

does he not know himself who donated?

respecting the privacy of his contributors?

or something sinister?

it could be any one of those reasons, but would we be irresponsible for not at least CHECKING ???

Originally Posted by Max2147 (Post 1137998)

Sure, your linky posty thing works, but you've got to work on which links you post!

Posting 3 links that support your accusation, then one link from a fact-checking site that says everything you posted previously is false is generally not a good idea.

Originally Posted by geetrue (Post 1137975)

Lets get carried away with the facts, okay.

1. Having gone to Harvard Obama is probabaly smarter than anyone on this forum except for August, okay :smug:

2. Obama won by a large voter turn out that included millions of white voters voting for him too. He is a very popular president. :)

3. Before Hillary gave up Bill Clinton said Obama didn't have what it takes (experience) to be the president of the United States of America. Allow me this one future thought, Obama is proving this and if he stumbles guess who is getting the experience to become the 46th president of the United States of America ... If you said Hillary Clinton you are correct. :salute:

4 Obama attended a church in Chicago for 22 years and never heard his pastor preach one single anti-american sermon (give me a break) Rev Wright was and still is his friend. His children were baptised in that church and untill recently was the only church he had ever been a member of ... :hmmm:

5. As of June 2009 Mr Obama had attended more Muslim mosque than he had a christian (which he proclaims to be) churches. His failure to locate a church in the Washington, DC area was given to his popularity and need for security. Barack Obama still looking for church

Okay, we give him that one, remembering that Mr Bush also chose to stay at home and attend a closed church service at Camp David which after six months of no home church Mr Obama has also now selected to be his church. Don't think this is not important in future events.

6. Who would be on the inside track of knowing how many passports Mr Obama had in the 1980's ... the State Department has that information and you already know who runs that department.

7. Mr Obama has 30 so called czars guiding him on what to do ... who are they and what do they tell him? :o

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/16/fox-debunks-czars/



There is no number eight ... I have to go repent from reading the news and smiling that Mr Obama is on the way down. The Lord doesn't like my smirk and I don't want to be linked with Rush Limbo either.

More facts to chew on: Obama meets with Mormon leader

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1138001)

thats called being "unbiased" :yeah:

all you have to do is look at HOW the articles were written.

3 written factually and in a manner in which the writer steps back and looks at the situation

1 written in language that is abusive to "the right" in its demeanor and language

:up:

just think - thats all

Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1138004)

Abusive to the right? Because they laid out what the facts were and pointed out the errors in the email?

Well, I guess it's true what they say: facts have a liberal bias.

Originally Posted by Mikhayl (Post 1138011)

Quoted for laughs. "Faux" means "false", in the snopes article it just means "fake news", it has nothing to do with Fox.

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1138017)

funny :har:

perhaps i have become too accustomed to being attacked because im a republican?

nothing will get the left descending on your arse faster than loving God and Guns and despising welfare and socialism

Originally Posted by Max2147 (Post 1138029)

Correction: Nothing will p*ss off the left more than FORCING US to love God and guns.

We don't care what other people do, but it really upsets me when people try to force their ways upon me, then call me "un-American" if I reject them.

Originally Posted by Max2147 (Post 1138029)

As far as the Snopes article, they called the e-mail a faux new article because.... it's a faux news article! It's fake!

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1137771)

You've got something on your shoulder there.

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS) (Post 1137917)

There hasn't been a declaration of war by this country since WW II.

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

I know that, you know that, but we are the United States of America. As such we are held to a higher standard than anyone else.

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

We do make mistakes but the global consequences for those mistakes are much higher.

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

Realizing this we have to adhere to those higher standards if we wish to maintain our reputation.

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1138030)

well hey... we have a breakthrough.

1. who is forcing you to go to church? saying that everyone has the freedom of religion doesnt mean you have to pick one.

2. who is forcing you to go purchase a gun? giving me the right to own a firearm with which to protect my home and property doesnt mean you have to buy or own one


the same could be said of the right in this country

we genuinely dont give a sh*t what you do... just dont infringe my rights to #1 and #2 above. and dont FORCE me to pay into socialist programs unless i do so voluntarily or unless i plan on using them for my own family.

deal???

Originally Posted by Max2147 (Post 1138165)

The previous President's main base of support was people who wanted to force me to go to Church.

Originally Posted by Max2147 (Post 1138165)

They force me to say I believe in God in order to pledge my allegiance to this country.

Originally Posted by Max2147 (Post 1138165)

They use their religion to prevent women from making their own choices about their health.

Originally Posted by Max2147 (Post 1138165)

They force people to suffer and die from diseases that could very well be curable with the proper medical research (stem cells).

Originally Posted by Max2147 (Post 1138165)

They may not be at my door telling me to go to church, but they're still forcing me to live my life by their religion.

Originally Posted by Max2147 (Post 1138165)

And you can stop paying for "socialist" social programs when I can stop paying for absurd and unnecessary weapons purchases. Deal?

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1138238)

otherwise there are thousands of young couples out there who would GLADLY adopt it ;) its un-nerving to know how many young women out there resort to abortion because they just dont want the kid. (one such young lady in my family :( )

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1137753)

So, you made this quote up?


Because that video you posted does not have anything remotely like this in it. I did hear Obama admit that the people of Iraq are better off without Hussein, and a lot of talking out of both sides of his mouth, but I asked for backup that Obama said extremists were right all along. I don't care what Marc Thiessen said. I don't need a talking head to help me form my opinions.

Originally Posted by antikristuseke (Post 1138242)

Sure, thats is why there are no kids in state care...oh wait:doh:

While I do not much like abortion, it is preferable to bring an unwanted child, or a child the people involved are unable to support, into this world.

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1 (Post 1138245)

Sure does. Did you listen to the entire thing? Or did I post the wrong video? You need to watch the entire thing. Right in front of a Muslim audience. He just authorized their holy war.

-S

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1138295)

Did not see that quote, not in that video. Maybe you can tell me the minute mark it occurs at, since most of that 10 minutes is filled with talking heads.

Here's the entire text of his speech, where did he say "the extremists were right all along"?