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So the Mexicans don't want 'em back, either?

I hate it when I come late to a thread like this.

I agree in principle, but I think the reality is just the opposite: they don't want to do it legally because just skipping over is too easy.

Ooh, bad phrasing. Sounds a little too close to "Some of my best friends are...
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The exact argument I always make; though I usually leave Mexico out of the equation simply because so many American tourists go there they practically have to conform to our culture anyway. But that's really just the hot spots. I suppose anywhere in the 'real' Mexico we'd have to work at it.

Now that I look at it I see what you mean. It certainly wasn't intended in that manner. I may be a redneck, but I's a civilized redneck:rotfl:

No worries, I see that. It just concerns me that some people do, to the point that "Mexicans" has become synonymous with "poor, dirty, freeloaders"



One reason, two words; Latino Vote. All the worst parts of profiteering, and capitalism conveniently located in one entity that supposedly is there to look out for your interests; the state.

Methinks we agree on this issue, but we have different arguments about it, no?

I try to keep an open mind about everything (although, with age and infirmity, it closes more and more), but yes, I think we agree in different ways:D

Borders, language and culture is what makes a Country, when those are infringed upon you no longer have a Country. Our Border patrol go to prison when they do their job here. I would deport Bush for his obvious love for illegal's.

I grew up on the Texas border and lived there for many years.

Eventually I had to move away because its impossible to get a job unless you speak Spanish!!!

Holy Crap...I cant even go to resteraunt and expect to find a waitress that speaks English.....:damn:


I say ship em all back...erect walls...minefields and machine gun nests with interlocking fields of fire!

I have seen first hand how they have destroyed the area I grew up in.....horrible horrible :nope:

Thats why I cant stand either Obama or McCain...neither will do ANYTHING!!!

I usualy vote Republican but I'll be damned if I support someone who is pro-illegal.

Seems that your problem with immigration is not the illegal nature of it, but rather the ethnic and cultural infusion that comes with it. Such things were said about the Irish and Italians as well. America was a better place for those immigrants, and ultimately will be better for this new wave.

In terms of the illegal nature of the immigration, it does not seem likely to stop or change.

I think the least they can do is a little landscaping as they cross the border to make it look pretty. :D

Yeah, but they all learned the lingo and fly the american flag as did my Grandfather.

Bloody shame we can not get rid of the white eastern european trash that is coming in to my country.

Which countries did you have in mind :hmm:

Yes, they did, at least eventually. But, for many, many years there were entire districts within numerous east coast cities where English was the second language, and American culture was the second culture. This seems to be convieniently forgotten when it comes to the modern immigration movement.

They never had the decency to learn Choctaw.

GOOD:up:

My Grand Parents learned english and had to take classes when they came through ellis island. They came here legally which is what people today are missing the big picture over. Supply and demand is the situation. A Country can only absorb so many immigrants at a certain rate or the Country will not be able to absorb the financial impact, it will be over burdened. This is why many emergency rooms have closed in hospitals. illegals with no insurance get treated and do not pay their bills. So because of the ACLU and other sob sister organizations threatening hospitals that would refuse service to illegals, they shut down. If anyone thinks that, that is good for this country, then they are blind to the Nth degree.

Its not Immigration....Its the illegality and the refusal to at least partially integrate with your new society.

Im not saying you have to give up your culture or your traditions....far from it...thats what makes America great.

Im not racist either....my Prom date was hispanic...so were all my buddies....if you were in a school with 98% hispanic and you were racist....you didnt get a date.....LOL

But as was mentioned.... dont dare refuse to speak the language....there has been more than enough time...There are families over here speaking Spanish for generations.

Also as mentioned the hospital crisis is amazingly bad. Im an RN and can vouch first hand at how terrible the influx is. Literally we have ladies zipping acorss the bridge in labor and dropping a baby right in the ER thus establishing their 'anchor' here for years to come.

I've personally been bitched at by families saying 'Why cant you speak Spanish!! YOu live in the RIo Grande Valley, you should speak SPanish!! I want a Nurse that I can talk to in SPanish!!!"

To which I reply...."If you can find an ICU qualified RN willing to work nights who also manges to speak Spanish....go for it...until then you got one white boy (me) or your choice of Fillipinas"

I dont add that the FIllipina's took the time to learn the language....spend thousands of dollars on legal fees and work their ass's off to come here legally.

So dont tell me Im anti immigration or Racist...I'll gladly work with 1000 Filipinos who bust their tails and as a result get all the rewards this country offers legitimately.

BUt give me one screaming illegal telling me that I have to keep her brain dead 100 year old grandma alive instead of letting her rest, just so she and the rest of the family can get permits to come across the border and 'visit'.

SOrry but thats not even decent humanity.

Oh yeah ....used toliet paper doesnt go in the trash can you gross people.:nope:




(Sorry....hot button for me...you can see why Im hoping both parties fail)

You are right cj95. No it is not being racist, but that is the card the ACLU will play against its own Country. Those swine should be tried for treason. It is funny you mentioned the toilet paper in the trash can. Years ago I worked at at place that had several "illegals" working there. The place is now shutdown. But a few of the employess contracted hepatitis and it was from flies that got into the trash can with the fecal matter, then they land on your food and then you get a life threatening disease. Real friggin nice! They are turning this Country into a third world nation slowly but surely.

Evidently they weren't leaving fast enough: http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...35579820080826

And they treated them like "criminals", uh, :doh:?

What they need to be doing is tossing the factory owner out with them imo.