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Lurchi 06-24-07 04:58 PM

The current events show that Germany will never be liked by its neighbours. History will always be used against us and the policy to financially contribute into international organizations in order to "buy" friendship has failed.

This isn't a big problem - we must understand that there is no friendship between nations anyway, only between people. If the Kaczynskis help us to understand this then i am thankful for them.

In my opinion this wonderful country, which was rebuilt from total destruction by its hardworking people (and -of course- help from outside) should cut back the money it (overproportionally) pays into the EU and UNO and should spend it for getting its military back into shape - if necessary with the inclusion of nuclear weapons. Who cares if someone trust us as long as they respect us.

If Poland votes for leaders who spit on us then we germans have every right to vote for a leader not willing to accept this.
A closer cooperation with russia should also be helpful in this matter :cool:.

Skybird 06-24-07 05:19 PM

I want to reiterate again - like i already said earlier - that my anger, when talking of "Poland", is with the twins, and the coalition parties, and the camp of the ultraconservative and nationalistic political faction in Poland. This counts for maybe 1/4 to 1/3 of the whole population, so my impression, and that is what several Polish journalists on Germnn TV inrecent weeks also were indicating. Which means that the majority of Poles probably does not share the official Polish hostility towards Germany. On level of private relations between citizens from both countries, i think the majority of interhuman experiences is positive.

I certainly would help if the moderate majority would try more to prevent leaving the Polish policies to the extremists.

Wait - where have I heared that phrasing before... :lol:

The Avon Lady 06-25-07 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird
but maybe that is the wanted effect? so that people on the street cannot understand what they are expected to celebrate. There will be no foreign minster, but a new foreign policy office with a posy title. The charta does not get mentioned anymore, but is referred to as nevertheless being legally binding. Several complications come from this, that will allow Brussels under the umbrella of these basic laws being binding to overrule national parliaments (the expressed will of the national voters) and national constitutions, that way accumulating More and more power in the hands of a bureaucratic structure that internally decides over it's form and personnel and never finds a democratic legitimation by the people of europe.

Similarly: Goodbye to all that, Britain included.


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