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Biggles 11-03-06 07:50 AM

Okay, But I aint to much for reality. I'm not a hardcore player that goes 100% realism, so I think NYGM is not for me. But I WILL get GWX!

danlisa 11-03-06 07:54 AM

Hers's an option for you if you are concerned about the Med traffic.

Open the Mission editor and load the campaign files then crank up the time compression.

You will see that there is actually a lot of traffic in the Med.

Biggles 11-03-06 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by danlisa
Hers's an option for you if you are concerned about the Med traffic.

Open the Mission editor and load the campaign files then crank up the time compression.

You will see that there is actually a lot of traffic in the Med.


I'll note that......thank you:yep:

BTW, I'm finally up and running with my new comp. next week, so I'd like a link where I can find the Mod enabler or what you call it. Anyone would help me with that would be very kind.

danlisa 11-03-06 08:03 AM

http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/software/products.html

Tuddley3 11-03-06 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicninja
why is that shipmate?

Do you like installing Spyware on your computer(Big Brother).

I have UBWA 1.92 Light at FileFront :
http://files.filefront.com/WarAceCam.../fileinfo.html

SteamWake 11-03-06 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt USA
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Originally Posted by sonicninja
why is that shipmate?

Do you like installing Spyware on your computer(Big Brother).

What tha :oops:

Sigh not again. Let me sum it up for you "Seawolves" bad... "Greywolves" good... and free.

JSalinger 11-03-06 08:39 PM

Or to simplify it even more: Seawolves is illegal and usage of it in the United States constitutes a federal felony; Greywolves is VERY legal and usage of it in the United States will do nothing but get you even more addicted to SH3. :)

Subwolf 11-04-06 06:53 AM

Excuse me, but that's a lie. Seawolves is not illegal, it's for sale in the stores and I got it too.

This software for SH3 contains a lot of stuff I can't find as freeware. If it was put together by freeware mods, like GW, then it's a another story. But it isn't, and I enjoy it.

So what's the matter with you guys, are you pissed off because you can't get every mod for free? The attitude in this forum against payware for SH3 makes me laugh. Payware mods are common for most games, like Flight Simulator 2004. That game cost me $80, but I got $400 of additional payware in it...

Soviet_Sharpshooter 11-04-06 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Subwolf
Excuse me, but that's a lie. Seawolves is not illegal, it's for sale in the stores and I got it too.

This software for SH3 contains a lot of stuff I can't find as freeware. If it was put together by freeware mods, like GW, then it's a another story. But it isn't, and I enjoy it.

So what's the matter with you guys, are you pissed off because you can't get every mod for free? The attitude in this forum against payware for SH3 makes me laugh. Payware mods are common for most games, like Flight Simulator 2004. That game cost me $80, but I got $400 of additional payware in it...


And yet all you do in the vanilla is fly around... great game to make payware mods for :rotfl:

Respenus 11-04-06 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Subwolf
Excuse me, but that's a lie. Seawolves is not illegal, it's for sale in the stores and I got it too.

This software for SH3 contains a lot of stuff I can't find as freeware. If it was put together by freeware mods, like GW, then it's a another story. But it isn't, and I enjoy it.

So what's the matter with you guys, are you pissed off because you can't get every mod for free? The attitude in this forum against payware for SH3 makes me laugh. Payware mods are common for most games, like Flight Simulator 2004. That game cost me $80, but I got $400 of additional payware in it...

From what hell spawn did you get from! Paying for something that is both free and better. Do you even realise how many free mods are out there. Go to filefront.com and see all the games that are modded by the community. FOR FREE!!! If you wish to pay for a GOOD product addon like for MS FS, then go, buy it, by all means.

But X1 ripped off modders in this community and it did a bad job.

Just wait for GWX that will come out shortly (can't tell you the exact time). It will have Black Sea operations, you can bet your right hand it will have Med operations :D

Kingcobra24 11-04-06 09:18 AM

Ahem! Perhaps it's time that we, the rational adults of this community, step back and move onward, rather than once again resort to name calling, insults, etc. Not every mod will be everyone's cup of tea. Everyone has a right to their own personal opinion about anything and everything. Their opinions aren't necessarily right or wrong - merely different! Will it really do any good to try to get others to see things the same way we do? Is it really that important that they do so?:rock::rock::rock::rock:
:lurk:

Dowly 11-04-06 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Subwolf
Excuse me, but that's a lie. Seawolves is not illegal, it's for sale in the stores and I got it too.

This software for SH3 contains a lot of stuff I can't find as freeware. If it was put together by freeware mods, like GW, then it's a another story. But it isn't, and I enjoy it.

So what's the matter with you guys, are you pissed off because you can't get every mod for free? The attitude in this forum against payware for SH3 makes me laugh. Payware mods are common for most games, like Flight Simulator 2004. That game cost me $80, but I got $400 of additional payware in it...

Maybe you should study on this subject abit more. Why in the name of a donkey´s *ss should I pay for something that: a) uses stolen mods b) is made very poorly, has spyware on it and looks like that all the mods have been just slumped together without even checking they work as whole.

Oh... and did I say that I can get much more, much better and much more professional mods for free.

John Channing 11-04-06 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingcobra24
Ahem! Perhaps it's time that we, the rational adults of this community, step back and move onward, rather than once again resort to name calling, insults, etc. Not every mod will be everyone's cup of tea. Everyone has a right to their own personal opinion about anything and everything. Their opinions aren't necessarily right or wrong - merely different! Will it really do any good to try to get others to see things the same way we do? Is it really that important that they do so?:rock::rock::rock::rock:
:lurk:

Listen to what he said.

Seriously... keep it cool and knock off the over the top rhetoric!

JCC

Safe-Keeper 11-04-06 10:31 AM

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Excuse me, but that's a lie. Seawolves is not illegal, it's for sale in the stores and I got it too.
You have it and it's sold in stores, so it's not illegal? Nice reasoning.

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This software for SH3 contains a lot of stuff I can't find as freeware.
Nobody claimed all of it was stolen.

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If it was put together by freeware mods, like GW, then it's a another story. But it isn't [...]
Yes, it is. There's ample evidence of it stealing work from the community without giving credit to the designers.

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[...] and I enjoy it.
Which is a totally moot point. Your enjoyment does not justify anything. Heck, there are people out there who enjoy child pornography.

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So what's the matter with you guys, are you pissed off because you can't get every mod for free? The attitude in this forum against payware for SH3 makes me laugh.
I know I'm not supposed to use debate rhetoric in NormalSpeak, but...

Strawman argument.


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Payware mods are common for most games, like Flight Simulator 2004. That game cost me $80, but I got $400 of additional payware in it...
"Most games" is an overstatement.

And yes, pay-ware mods are relatively common, but most of them don't rip off free modifications.

Subwolf 11-04-06 10:41 AM

I only listen to opinions from those who got it, and from most of them it's thumbs up. Seawolves adds a new scenario to SH3 which is not available from any freeware.

What's the big deal if there are a couple of freeware mods in it, they were not important for the release, if so it just makes it even better for us who enjoys these addons. The quality is as expected of a payware product.

Let me just remind you that Seawolves is one of the bestsellers at Simmarket.com, so thanks to Combat Planes Inc. for their addons for SH3.

Safe-Keeper 11-04-06 11:40 AM

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I only listen to opinions from those who got it, and from most of them it's thumbs up.
Read a few reviews of it. Most of them are thumbs-down. Not that it matters. Just that it's popular, doesn't mean it's OK to steal mods.

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What's the big deal if there are a couple of freeware mods in it [...]
Try making a mod' yourself. Maybe then you'll understand the affection people get for their work. I'd be very angry indeed if somebody took as much as a byte of data from my NorOps mod' without permission and claimed it was their work.

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[...] It just makes it even better for us who enjoys these addons.
I'd suppose that is why they were stolen, because they're good.

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The quality is as expected of a payware product.
Expected, but not provided.

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Let me just remind you that Seawolves is one of the bestsellers at Simmarket.com
It sells, so it's OK?

Dowly 11-04-06 12:50 PM

Seawolves might be more popular than any of the supermods. There´s a very good reason for it. Not everyone who owns SHIII, browse forums. I could safe it´s less than 30% of the players that browse forums of the game they have. So, they dont have any idea that there is actually 500% better and more professionally made mods out there, for free.

joea 11-04-06 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Channing
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingcobra24
Ahem! Perhaps it's time that we, the rational adults of this community, step back and move onward, rather than once again resort to name calling, insults, etc. Not every mod will be everyone's cup of tea. Everyone has a right to their own personal opinion about anything and everything. Their opinions aren't necessarily right or wrong - merely different! Will it really do any good to try to get others to see things the same way we do? Is it really that important that they do so?:rock::rock::rock::rock:
:lurk:

Listen to what he said.

Seriously... keep it cool and knock off the over the top rhetoric!

JCC

Keep it cool? Of course, but I am sorry saying stealing is wrong is never "just an opinion". :nope:

joea 11-04-06 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subwolf
I only listen to opinions from those who got it, and from most of them it's thumbs up. Seawolves adds a new scenario to SH3 which is not available from any freeware.

What's the big deal if there are a couple of freeware mods in it, they were not important for the release, if so it just makes it even better for us who enjoys these addons. The quality is as expected of a payware product.

Let me just remind you that Seawolves is one of the bestsellers at Simmarket.com, so thanks to Combat Planes Inc. for their addons for SH3.

There is evidence there were more than just a couple of freeware mods, which were taken WITHOUT permission, which means stolen. That's the only important point. I certainly am not against payware.

Subwolf 11-04-06 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly
Seawolves might be more popular than any of the supermods. There´s a very good reason for it. Not everyone who owns SHIII, browse forums. I could safe it´s less than 30% of the players that browse forums of the game they have. So, they dont have any idea that there is actually 500% better and more professionally made mods out there, for free.

The SH3 official site links to subsim.com as the main community site, I would think that most SH3 owners are aware of the subsim forums...

Well in my point of view these so called stolen mods must be a very small part of the product, any modder should look at it as an honor if his little mod was found good enough to be included in a payware product. But of course...the modder should be asked first.

Anyway, it's not my intention to start a fight in here, let's just conclude with the fact that there are different opinions about this. What I'm trying to say is that it should be up to each and everyone to decide if Seawolves is worth the money or not, to me it was.


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