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HunterICX 10-17-06 12:07 PM

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And no, most Americans don't think the Democrats are more competant in areas of national security....

I love it. It is hilarious when people outside the US tell us what we think.

Most Americans KNOW that republicans place a higher priority on national security than democrats.

:hmm: O rly, but they dont seeming to care about the american citizens.
take Katrina hurricane for example...they let those people down. they didnt spend much of work helping them...and I might not be right on this one...but just because they where blacks?

and why do they let an private plane of a baseball player fly over NY.
I thought they should prevent that an airplane should fly over that city , just in case. :hmm:

The Avon Lady 10-17-06 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX
but just because they where blacks?

This is bald faced fiction.
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and why do they let an private plane of a baseball player fly over NY.
I thought they should prevent that an airplane should fly over that city , just in case. :hmm:
US security stinks and that's the truth.

August 10-17-06 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird
Wake up to reality, August. You are still dreaming, hoping the dream will last forever. It won't.

And what dream is that Sky? I don't think anyone, except the Europeans, ever thought our intention was to make Iraq the 51st state.

I've said it here more than once. If Iraq comes out of this as a functioning democracy then great, but I was happy with just removing Saddam and his henchmen from power.

Coda 10-17-06 12:41 PM

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6057740.stm

Latest polls show that Bush not only has lost the majority of Americans to support his views on Iraq, they also show that currently the democrats are thought to have better competence in the traditional field of Republican's strength: security in general.


Why aren't you upset about this?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6057812.stm

Comes from the same news source. I guess you just missed it, or glanced over it because it didn't give you an opportunity to bash America.

Coda 10-17-06 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by August
I've said it here more than once. If Iraq comes out of this as a functioning democracy then great, but I was happy with just removing Saddam and his henchmen from power.

After Hitler was removed, a new government was formed. Same thing in Japan. It didn't happen overnight, it takes hard work and patience.

Gizzmoe 10-17-06 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Coda
or glanced over it because it didn't give you an opportunity to bash America.

Please stop the baiting, thatīs the second time you try that today...

Coda 10-17-06 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX
:hmm: O rly, but they dont seeming to care about the american citizens.
take Katrina hurricane for example...they let those people down. they didnt spend much of work helping them...and I might not be right on this one...but just because they where blacks?

and why do they let an private plane of a baseball player fly over NY.
I thought they should prevent that an airplane should fly over that city , just in case. :hmm:

Katrina's initial failures were the result of recent government re-shuffles of departments under homeland security and mis-communications. The press made it look worse than it was. If you ask me how I know, I lived near there at the time in Houston. I went there with supplies and to help.

There were billions of dollars spent housing, feeding and rebuilding after the initial frenzy. It's only the foolish that think that America "didn't care". That's just an assinine uneducated statement.

Do you do anything to help? Did your country? Did you do anything to help the tsunami victims, the earthquake victims, and any other natural disaster that happens anywhere in the world? If you haven't noticed, the US is usually the first in line to offer a helping hand.

Private planes are allowed to fly because the pilot is an American. General aviation has been around since the first airplane flight took place [in America] and it is a hobby and convenience Americans enjoy, myself included. I'm a private pilot.

America isn't going to run scared every time something bad happens. We aren't going to curtail any of our enjoyed freedoms because of some lunatic who exploited a vulnerability. If you knew how much harder it is for me to just grab a flight on any given weekend now, you'd know better. Airport security is tighter at general aviation airports now, tighter than commercial in my opinion.


Sure, things aren't perfect here, but they are sure a hell of a lot better than other countries. Why don't you go pick on them?

bradclark1 10-17-06 01:03 PM

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And no, most Americans don't think the Democrats are more competant in areas of national security....
Thats what you think. The polls have shown different though.
The elections next month will give a window on that so it's not even worth arguing about.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

Where on that poll page is there any specific result for the specific question under discussion?

:rotfl: I just assumed that you would be smart enough to see across all polls that the Republicans are lagging. I would think that even Ray Charles would see that that would also incompass national security.
If you want you could tag it with the Bush approval rating.

The Avon Lady 10-17-06 01:09 PM

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And no, most Americans don't think the Democrats are more competant in areas of national security....
Thats what you think. The polls have shown different though.
The elections next month will give a window on that so it's not even worth arguing about.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

Where on that poll page is there any specific result for the specific question under discussion?

:rotfl: I just assumed that you would be smart enough to see across all polls that the Republicans are lagging.

Once again, where did I say otherwise?
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I would think that even Ray Charles would see that that would also incompass national security.
I'm beginning to believe that Ray Charles could read better than you. :cool:

bradclark1 10-17-06 01:09 PM

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You mean the same polls that showed Kerry with a huge lead over Bush in the last presidential election?

You don't trust Fox? I thought it was the republican heartbeat.

bradclark1 10-17-06 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX
:hmm: O rly, but they dont seeming to care about the american citizens.
take Katrina hurricane for example...they let those people down. they didnt spend much of work helping them...and I might not be right on this one...but just because they where blacks?

I'd say you weren't right. But I would assume that that statement is just a dig.

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and why do they let an private plane of a baseball player fly over NY.
I thought they should prevent that an airplane should fly over that city , just in case. :hmm:
They can fly along the river without a flight plan. Other then that you have to register a flight plan. The thinking behind the accident is that he was flying a high performance aircraft and was going too fast in the turn and hence ran into the building.

bradclark1 10-17-06 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
I'm beginning to believe that Ray Charles could read better than you. :cool:

I think it's the ability to see that 2+2 equals 4. :)

Coda 10-17-06 01:22 PM

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or glanced over it because it didn't give you an opportunity to bash America.

Please stop the baiting, thatīs the second time you try that today...

If I were to post 100 threads on how bad Germany's governemt, or any other countries governments suck, or make general hate statements towards any Euro country, I'd be censored and banned.

But if anyone slams the US, or Americans in general, it's deemed acceptable, and now, encouraged. This thread, along with many other like it, are baiting. baiting, and hating, Americans.

VipertheSniper 10-17-06 01:25 PM

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I've said it here more than once. If Iraq comes out of this as a functioning democracy then great, but I was happy with just removing Saddam and his henchmen from power.

After Hitler was removed, a new government was formed. Same thing in Japan. It didn't happen overnight, it takes hard work and patience.

I fail to see how you think Germany or Japan after WW2 are comparable with Iraq now, or even 1 day after it was declared by your Commander-in-Chief that the mission was accomplished.

The Avon Lady 10-17-06 01:26 PM

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I'm beginning to believe that Ray Charles could read better than you. :cool:

I think it's the ability to see that 2+2 equals 4. :)

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