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Kpt. Lehmann 10-25-05 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ENtek-IO
I think all reflection fixes for the subs and corrections to the uboot models like the type VIIc wiring should be in, making this mod to a error fix patch, simply musthaves which dont alter the original game but remove flaws.

This would be a good idea EXCEPT that many people do not use the stock skins that are included with Sergbuto's sub reflection fixes and Flakwalker's cable fixes.

Those are also independant mods that do not share files with the Sky Colors .dat files or the scene .dat and sensor .dat files.

The water/sun reflection and U-boat reflections are SEPARATE from the ATMOSPHERIC MOD and will have no conflicts when used together. The same is true for the Cable Fix mod by Flakwalker.

If we make the ATMOSPHERIC mod too detailed it can create many problems down the road.

I love the idea of a mod that fixes everything, but it isn't practical because so many use such different modifications in their game.

We have to stay focused on the idea that this is an ATMOSPHERIC MOD so ALL can use it.

Man o man, I can't wait to hear from SeeAdler, Rulle34, Jungman, and Ortega. :huh:

gdogghenrikson 10-25-05 07:36 PM

I agree with Lehmann

Marhkimov 10-25-05 07:38 PM

Well put, Kpt. Lehmann


Just putting together all of the atmospheric mods is trouble enough. I can't possibly immagine how much incompatability issues we would have if we made a FIX UBI'S DUMB MISTAKES mod... :lol:



OT, but that's a really cool name by the way... FIX UBI'S DUMB MISTAKES mod. We'll have to save that one for a rainy day. ;)

gdogghenrikson 10-25-05 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by marhkimov
Well put, Kpt. Lehmann


Just putting together all of the atmospheric mods is trouble enough. I can't possibly immagine how much incompatability issues we would have if we made a FIX UBI'S DUMB MISTAKES mod... :lol:

:-j
:rotfl:

Kpt. Lehmann 10-25-05 07:41 PM

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: That would be one HUGE @&^@#&!*#'n mod!!!

ENtek-IO 10-25-05 08:01 PM

hmm, it hought it would be practical to have atleast those two basics in one mod...+ the cloud distortion fix , and you are right i forgot those who use other skins then the stock ones.
I personaly think a new texture doesnt automaticaly translate to, better or estheticaly more pleasing.
It also would generate a new standard, additional skins are just that, and their authors should implement the reflection fixes,but the standard is stock,of course.
In the long run i highly doubt we can evade the fact that lots of mods do just that, they fix bugs ,and they should be treated like that..
So if people work on one file,they should in the communitys sake merge their work. Individual Mod claiming is just ego pleasing,and a inadequate approach if it comes to the "basics" imho.

Kpt. Lehmann 10-25-05 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENtek-IO
hmm, it hought it would be practical to have atleast those two basics in one mod...+ the cloud distortion fix , and you are right i forgot those who use other skins then the stock ones.
I personaly dont think a new texture doesnt automaticaly translate to, better or estheticaly more pleasing.
It also would generate a new standard, additional skins are just that, and their authors should implement the reflection fixes,but the standard is stock,of course.
In the long run i highly doubt we can evade the fact that lots of mods do just that, they fix bugs ,and they should be treated like that..
So i people work on one file,they should in the communitys sake merge their work. Individual Mod claiming is just ego pleasing,and a inadequate approach if it comes to the "basics" imho.

Have no worries, eventually all the most popular skins and mods will be converted to match the files in the ATMOSPHERIC MOD after the dust settles!

Everyone will be able to have their cake and eat it too... All that is needed is a little time.

Just think of where we will be a month from now! :sunny: :sunny: :sunny: :sunny: :sunny:

Marhkimov 10-25-05 09:55 PM

An order of action is necessary...


TOP PRIORITY - we need Rulle34 and Manuel Ortega to merge their visibility mods into one. We really shouldn't have seperate visibility mods... make a final decision on 16 or 18km. One or the other, not both...

Also, Jungman's sensor settings will have to match with your guy's decision. We will also have to integrate all of that with Seeadler's cloud fix (scene.dat).

These will be the affected files
Scene.dat
SkyColors_Arct.dat
SkyColors_Atl.dat
SkyColors_Med.dat
Sensors.cfg
Sensors.dat



Once we do all of that, we will have solved all of the complicated stuff. Next, we'll only have to add the sky/sea/moon/cloud textures.


Sound like a good plan?

Kpt. Lehmann 10-25-05 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marhkimov
An order of action is necessary...


TOP PRIORITY - we need Rulle34 and Manuel Ortega to merge their visibility mods into one. We really shouldn't have seperate visibility mods... make a final decision on 16 or 18km. One or the other, not both...

Also, Jungman's sensor settings will have to match with your guy's decision. We will also have to integrate all of that with Seeadler's cloud fix (scene.dat).

These will be the affected files
Scene.dat
SkyColors_Arct.dat
SkyColors_Atl.dat
SkyColors_Med.dat
Sensors.cfg
Sensors.dat



Once we do all of that, we will have solved all of the complicated stuff. Next, we'll only have to add the sky/sea/moon/cloud textures.


Sound like a good plan?

POSITIVELY!!! now all we have to do is wait for those guys to wake up.... Coffee Marhkimov? :|\

BTW my vote is for the 16 km visibility mod... It seems to be the most widely tested and used.

Fangschuss 10-25-05 10:14 PM

:rock: :rock:

This Community Rocks :up:

Cant wait for this total Fix :yep:

Marhkimov 10-25-05 10:23 PM

Same here, 16km...

I seem to run into too many ships as it is... Of course, many of you will just consider me to be lucky... :lol:

Hackett 10-25-05 10:52 PM

Votes for 16km visibility...

JBClark 10-25-05 11:05 PM

You guys are the tits.

Marhkimov 10-25-05 11:11 PM

Yay... We're the tits!!!

umm... is that a good thing? :roll:

Nippelspanner 10-25-05 11:26 PM

Sounds great! Uh...Sounds...Sounds? Whats about Sounds? The standard Sounds in Sh3 are...mh..."not so good" i could make a new one!

i guess sounds are important for an athmo-mod :|\

:roll:

EDIT: Tits? :hmm: :up:


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