Re: You can't save mid carreer with 98?
 

Well, the problem (as I see it) is that SH3 Commander has a backlog of features that we would like to get developed. We have a finite time period to work on the mod, and we have a lot of work to do to make SH3 Commander be all it can be for Win2000 and XP. We are already looking at a situation where there's more to do than we have energy for. I believe that adding compatibility for other operating systems cannot be made a consideration at this point, because if SH3 Commander supports Win98 it's not just a case of a quick fix with no adverse repercussions. Even if it is a quick and easy fix, it means that we have lost that amount of development time (translation: a feature is not implemented). I am 100% devoted to getting as much content into SH3 Commander as possible. I want this mod to be the best free mod ever made for a simulation, and I think it can be that - it probably is already, but I want it to be unmatched and unchallenged for years. I want people to say, in 10 years time "Hey, do you remember SH3 Commander? Why don't they make mods like that anymore?" Maybe that's selfish, but it's how I feel about it.

This is the best, most promising, mod project I've ever been involved with, and I don't want even a quick sidestep to slow down the march of progress, because this mod (as everyone knows who has used it) is 'the business'. I realise that's a hard pill to swallow for those who can't use it. All the features in the world are useless if you can't use them, but I believe this is a once in a lifetime opportunity to make a good game really great, and I'm loathe to halt progress even for an instant. I'm telling you, if you really love SH3, and if you really want to use this mod, get an OS that will run it. I don't think you'll regret it. SH3 Commander, with its commander bio feature and the new features that are in development, creates a gaming experience that has never been matched by any mod that I've seen or heard about. It brings role-playing elements to the game that make SH3 deeper, more meaningful and more fun. What Jaesen has given us is a whole new reason to play. This blend of sim and RPG is (in my view) what simulations should be all about.

Re: You can't save mid carreer with 98?
 

It's not a problem but a conscious design choice. Making it Win98 compatible means losing enhancements for WinXP/2000 users, or at the very least, rewriting the code to exclude features that won't work on Win98, meaning as Beery says, less time for adding new features. Either way, I don't think (supported) WinXP/2000 users will be happy.

And please, it's just not as simple as saying "well the game runs, everything else must be able to".

Only when I got the thing home and wondered why it wasn't loading did I realise my mistake...Anyway, let's just say that I got my first DVD-ROM drive around the same time I got my SH3...

i agree.
i installed xp pro on an old system i have:
celeron 300a
abit mb
diamond 300mx sound
asus video

xp pro runs more stable and faster than 98 ever did.

Don't doubt this for a moment. The speed advantage of XP over 98x/ME has been well documented. It's just that , like Pythos ,I have reservations about XP and would like to consider a less draconian alternative. Win2k pro has been recommended to me - but not by anyone who is running SH3, and that would be my main reason for going NTFS! I know that 2k was never intended to be a gaming platform but that doesn't mean that it won't do the job. Has anyone out there had an opportunity to directly compare XP with 2k and can offer me advice. I know what I'm saying is " tell me that 2k is as good as XP" but I won't go that route if there is a cogent reason not to!

Re: You can't save mid carreer with 98?
 

Hehe, I can see it now:

:arrgh!:

Re: You can't save mid carreer with 98?
 

Mum....MUM! Come here quick! Beery is laughing at us! :cry:

been building pc's since 286's and mfm hard drives.
operating systems i've used:
dos 5.0 thru dos 6.2
win 3.1
win 95
win 98
win 2000
win me(i include this because microsoft confirms it as an os; go look on their web site if you don't believe me)
ntfs 4.0
win xp pro

os recommended for home gaming pc: win xp pro

the thing that gets me most about this thread - what is so bad about win xp that makes it not an option? this is confusing to me probably because i know its the best option. but i DO want to hear the horror stories that are making you so reluctant...and leave your mom out of this!

huh..here is what I have used and my thoughts

Win 95..it was ok
win 98.. second worst OS I have used
win 2000 pro.good OS(second best OS I Have used)
Win ME..worst OS I Have ever used(lots of blue screen of death) :rotfl:
Win XP pro.. windows best OS.. IMHO (well I have had the least problems with this OS)

Re: You can't save mid carreer with 98?
 

:rotfl: Note to self: do not read such comments with a mouth full of scotch...

Re: You can't save mid carreer with 98?
 

Glad to hear you can still read. :doh:

My OS order:

Unix
Dos
Win95
Win98se
Win2k
Linux Mandrake, redhat, SuSe and Dragon Lunix
WinXP Pro Drive C & Vista beta (longhorn) on second drive.

Favourite all time OS....drum roll....Windows2000 (with SP4)

Amazing how alot of threads lean away from the main topic :)

That's the spirit, hic. :)

Well, nothing ,I suppose - just prejudice and good old fashioned resistance to radical change! Seeing a list of all the OS you worked with made me go all nostalgic. DOS 5 with PCTools......mmmmmm now that was a system. Who really needed Windows at all? If I wanted a GUI - would've bought a Mac! And don't forget DOS 3 -came on a 720k floppy and only used about half of that!

Dunno why Beery and JJ are getting all farty about a simple little adjustment to make SH3 Cmdr run on Win 98. Must be child's play for whiz kids like them! Now if we'd asked for a DOS 3 version they might have something to complain about!

Got to leave my mum out of it for the moment, more's the pity, her wheelchair has got a flat! Just wait til my dad gets home though!

If it was child's play, we would have done it gladly by now, if only to have some peace. :damn:

Now come on, everyone's telling you to upgrade, and we've yet to hear your XP and Win2000 horror stories. I'm beginning to suspect you have some sort of weird Win98 fetish.

Sorry for "leaning" off topic mate. I was just trying to get some info on a system that would let me run SH3 Cmdr without installing another invasive, spyware ridden application - I've already got one of those which came FOC with SH3 :) so I don't think I strayed too far. Just thought all you experienced computer buffs could help. Bloody good job I didn't hold my breath waiting for an answer though! :-j Still I've found a brilliant technical advice forum - 5 answers within 30 mins after I posted the query - and all good detailed stuff too! Upgrade to NTFS now proceeding.
Interesting you mentioned Win 2000 with SP4 - doesn't that turn it into a poor mans version of XP?

Beery: Thanks for the info on what wouldn't be in a win98 version. Wouldn't be much without all those features. I'm not going to tell my dad about you now.!