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Originally Posted by PL_Harpoon (Post 2502635)

While I agree with the first example (I even made a separate thread about this) I don't seem to find a solution to the second situation.

If the AI can't detect a torpedo what it's supposed to do?
One thing I noticed in your screenshot is that it's baffles are quite wide - about 60 degrees but again, what would you want the AI to do i this situation? More frequent baffle clears?

What's being touched on here is one of the few strengths / redeeming qualities of the Mk 37, for its time it was quiet. Now that the AI don't have torpedo ESP anymore (picking up slow passive torpedoes shot at distance in the baffles) stuff like this is possible.

In all likelihood these are the types of attacks that would have been attempted/preferred with the Mk 37 in wartime. If done right (launching sub not detected, target has course and speed that allow it to be intercepted by a 17 knot torpedo) this tactic can be quite successful, however the risks involved and the marginal nature of the weapon (both speed and warhead) lead to the development of the Mk 48.

From my experiences and tactics in both 68 and 84 I get the feeling that in a real war the Soviets would have been absolutely toasted ;)
At least on the naval front.

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Originally Posted by Skyhigh (Post 2502664)

From my experiences and tactics in both 68 and 84 I get the feeling that in a real war the Soviets would have been absolutely toasted ;)
At least on the naval front.

EDIT: The new torpedo logic in the updated 1.06 beta is much much better!
Takes more MK48s now to take on a sub. They can evade better. More fun.

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Originally Posted by The Bandit (Post 2502657)

Now that the AI don't have torpedo ESP anymore (picking up slow passive torpedoes shot at distance in the baffles) stuff like this is possible.

Really? Can't find it on the changelog, but that'd be great.

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Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 2502732)

Really? Can't find it on the changelog, but that'd be great.

Here's quote from the steam forums

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Major changes are:
Torpedo tubes jamming is reinstated but a little more generous, tubes can now jam at 20+ knots.
Found the last (we hope) of the AI submarine diving bugs, so now there should be no more diving into the sea floor or past crush depth by Soviet subs.
Torpedo homing logic now uses "lag" rather than "lead" logic so that targets being homed on cannot be outside the sensor cone.

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Originally Posted by PL_Harpoon (Post 2502746)

Here's quote from the steam forums

That quote doesn't say anything about torpedoes being undetectable in enemy sub's baffles though.
It says that torps cannot home on something outside their sensor cone.

Torpedo Extrasensory Perception (ESP) was something else ;)

Yeah, my bad. I've misread Shadow's post :03: