Damned, I've never seen it !
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Thank you it's saved !
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All the nations that were involved in World War II are present on this forum. Here we have the English, the Americans, French, Australian, New Zealand, Belgian, Dutch, all allies are here. But we also have German, Italian and even Japanese (if I remember correctly), all the nations of the AXE are here on Subsim.
But there never was a word of hatred or rancor.
It is probably that the most extraordinary.
I also believe that many world leaders should think about it before launching missiles and helicopter gunships against people...

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We all have a common interest and a common goal, and the sharing of knowledge is not a zero-sum game. Unlike R/L, where the competition for scarce resources usually IS a zero-sum game, a game were those who lack the necessities of life, die. It's easy for everyone to get along, especially when the haves - the talented modders - are willing to share freely with the have-nots - the mod-using community. It's nice that the haves, in this case, possess sufficient resources that they are both able and willing to donate their labor to the community and receive nothing in return. For a variety of reasons, this is seldom the case in R/L.

The modern Olympic Games have been going on since 1859. Participants also generally share common interests and goals. Yet, the Games existed in the shadow of the wars of the 20th Century. And far from bringing people together, they have been a mirror for the greed, enmity, and inhumanity of R/L. Thankfully, SubSim is too small, too unimportant, and too strictly controlled for anything similar to enter here. But that is ONLY because this is a private resource, the owners enforce strict rules of behavior, and we guests here accept those rules in exchange for the benefits which this forum provides.

R/L, whose rules are you willing to follow? And whose enforcement are you willing to accept?

I was being nice.

Mainly because I'm in that category myself.

We actually have a few who are approaching 4x20.

Very good questions and I do not know the answers.
Personally, when I look at the subsim forum, I see almost the same as during the D-Day commemorations in Colleville-Sur-Mer and/or Omaha Beach for example. There, you can see an old gefreiter, gunner on MG42 fall into the arms of a former sergent of the 82nd Airborne as if they had been at school together. It always leaves me with an extreme emotion, often near the tears because this part of the war has really touched me and I'll never forget all of the boys died for my freedom.
But after that, I really do not understand anymore. Yesterday they were killing, and the thousand of graves in so many cemeteries prove it, and today the same guy, became like brothers...
How useful was this war except for a minority of people who have never been on the battlefield ?
And finally, why did they the war ?

It's a mystery, perhaps the mystery of the age on the final way...

Water back too. ^^

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About the file saver of JGSME, take care: the soft save always in the same file and kill your previous save...Don't forget to rename the file after saving.

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The scene you describe between an-ex Nazi soldier and a US paratrooper is not uncommon. The best description of this emotion that I have seen was written by Ned Beach in his Introduction to Herbert Werner’s Iron Coffins. I do not know or understand the reaction. (I have never been in combat, or even in military service.) But from what I have read, it does not seem a likely basis for reducing war. It seems to take years to achieve – not “yesterday.” And it is selective: when Beach wrote his Introduction, he was a Cold War sub commander, and it does not seem to have influenced him to cut his Soviet counterparts any slack.

Visualizing World Peace sounds all hip and New Age-y, but it doesn’t address the problems that cause people. in great numbers, to want to kill those they see as different, to take what they have or to prevent others from taking from them. The roots of the problem lie in other areas, and feeling good is not a substitute for addressing the realities of economic, political, or ideological conflict. Back in the 70s, I was a small part of that great movement that ended the Viet Nam War. Ending that war saved many lives, brought immense suffering to many others, and did nothing to change the mindset of either my country or the rest of the world in any lasting way.

BTW, you mention that “...I'll never forget all of the boys died for my freedom.” Are you speaking of the American, the German, or both? Because, back on June 6, 1944, both would have told you that that was what they were doing. From all I have read, I don’t think anyone goes to war believing that the cause they are fighting for is wrong.

How can you accept to consider that the German soldiers were fighting for my freedom in 1944 ?
Search on Google for "Massacre de Bande 1944" for example, it was in my country, december 24th, mery xmas...
http://www.bel-memorial.org/cities/l...l_fusilles.htm

You can also watch on "Oradour" to know how the german soldiers were fighting for our freedom.

Well, I think it's better to stop the conversation here because we can't continue without talking politics and this is not the main theme of the forum.
Sorry, that was not my goal when I paid tribute to the liberators of 1944
where I keep an eternal gratitude, even though I know they were primarily victims of the system.

I did not say that the Germans were fighting for your freedom. I said that the German soldier would have said that he was. In saying that, I took a bit of license with your words, but the German soldier would have said and believed that he was fighting for "a better world" for you (if you were of the right ethnic heritage) as well as for himself. I am well aware of the evils the Nazis did, and believe that much of that evil was inherent in the Nazi worldview. But, since we were talking about the causes and alternatives to war, I just wanted to stress that even a German soldier, fighting for the Nazi regime, thought he was risking his life for a good reason. This is a part of the problem peacemakers always face: Both sides believe in their cause strongly enough to die for it! The morality of fighting for the Nazis troubles me even when I play SH3. But it didn't trouble a lot of people, ordinary folks who were hardly sociopaths. It is often easy for an outsider to look at a conflict and find that, in his eyes, one side clearly has the moral high ground. But that in no way diminishes the commitment of the other side's combatants, and "you are wrong!" is not a convincing argument. Finding ways to bring peace to the world is very different from creating a rational, comfortable Internet site.

A second childhood?:rotfl2: