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WernherVonTrapp 08-28-13 06:17 PM

:hmmm: Well, at least making it illegal will let our children know it's not approved or appropriate behavior. Would anyone want their children aspiring to be prostitutes when they grow up?

Tchocky 08-28-13 06:29 PM

Making it illegal makes things more dangerous for the men and women involved. Properly licensed and regulated is the way to do it in my opinion.

It's called the oldest profession for a reason. Making it illegal doesn't make it go away, only more dangerous.

If we were legalising professions based on what you want your children doing I'd outlaw chugging.

WernherVonTrapp 08-28-13 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2107047)
Making it illegal makes things more dangerous for the men and women involved. Properly licensed and regulated is the way to do it in my opinion.

It's called the oldest profession for a reason. Making it illegal doesn't make it go away, only more dangerous.

If we were legalising professions based on what you want your children doing I'd outlaw chugging.

How does illegality make it any more dangerous than it is? If they legalize and regulate it; you really believe no one will side-step the laws and/or stay hidden to avoid regulation and taxes?
Also, murder has been around since the dawn of time, but that's not a basis to call it "OK".
Finally; what the heck is "chugging"? All my dictionaries refer to noises or collecting for charity.:06:

Tchocky 08-28-13 06:45 PM

With chugging I was being hyperbolic. Those charity workers that stop you in the street. I find it grating but acceptable.

Counter - People will always evade the law no matter what it is. In this case I believe keeping that number as low as possible is beneficial - especially where a majority of demand can be satisfied in a safe and fair-minded (regulated!) manner. One could make the same case for legalising low-severity drugs, thereby freeing up police time for more serious offences.

Apropos of none of that - making something illegal in order to discourage children is not the way to approach public policy.

Platapus 08-28-13 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp (Post 2107049)
How does illegality make it any more dangerous than it is? If they legalize and regulate it; you really believe no one will side-step the laws and/or stay hidden to avoid regulation and taxes?


The price will drop, that's for sure. What is desired is that the customer will prefer using a "supplier" that is tested, regulated, and inspected over using one that ain't.

Legalizing prostitution won't eliminate the illegal prostitution industry, but it will cut it down significantly. If the unions get involved they will take care of the "independents".

The less talk about prostitute scabs the better. :haha:

Prostitution is the capitalist's dream

Ya have it
Ya sell it
Ya still have it to sell again... probably to the same person multiple times. :yeah:

WernherVonTrapp 08-28-13 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 2107053)
... probably to the same person multiple times. :yeah:

Now that's scarier than recycled toilet paper.:o

Sailor Steve 08-28-13 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp (Post 2107044)
:hmmm: Well, at least making it illegal will let our children know it's not approved or appropriate behavior.

Not approved by whom? Not appropriate how?

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Would anyone want their children aspiring to be prostitutes when they grow up?
No, but then I wouldn't want my children aspiring to be politicians either. If they choose that route then I would certainly want them to know they were protected and regulated. :sunny:

WernherVonTrapp 08-28-13 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2107059)
Not approved by whom? Not appropriate how?


No, but then I wouldn't want my children aspiring to be politicians either. If they choose that route then I would certainly want them to know they were protected and regulated. :sunny:

I would let my children know that it is not approved by me, and that selling their body for personal gain is beneath their true capabilities and illegal. Yeah, I think that sums it up nicely. Why, you would approve of your children aspiring to be prostitutes when they grow up?:hmm2: We're not talking about politicians.

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2107052)
Apropos of none of that - making something illegal in order to discourage children is not the way to approach public policy.

So you think it is OK for children to drink alcohol before the age of 21?
Sometimes laws are made for this very reason.

Stealhead 08-28-13 07:35 PM

I am fairly sure that Tchocky comes from a nation where the drinking age is lower than 21.

The thing is humans desire sex and many are willing to pay for sex when they desire it.Simply because it is a sin under some religious beliefs does not really matter very much.Especially when you take into consideration that illegal prostitution has zero regulation and exploits many people,spreads disease and spreads drug abuse(because many illegal prostitutes are drug addicts).To aking it illeagl only serves to endanger many people needlessly.

I am not trying to change anyone's mind only to say what I think.

Sailor Steve 08-28-13 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp (Post 2107060)
I would let my children know that it is not approved by me, and that selling their body for personal gain is beneath their true capabilities and illegal.

Teaching your children your own morals is laudable. Making laws according to your personal morals is not. Beneath their true capabilities? Excellent. Illegal? That's not a judgement call. Many things are illegal that should not be.

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Why, you would approve of your children aspiring to be prostitutes when they grow up?:hmm2:
No, but if one of them did I would voice my disapproval once, and make sure she knew that I loved her and she was welcome in my home regardless. If she did make that choice I would be happier knowing that she was in a situation where she was reasonably safe and had access to medical benefits and protection, rather than being under the control of bad people. Better it's a profession than a slave-market.

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We're not talking about politicians.
You are talking about what you approve of for your children. I see the one as no worse than the other.

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So you think it is OK for children to drink alcohol before the age of 21?
Not directed at me, but my wife was drinking wine at 19 that I know of. That said, weren't you just chastising me for changing the subject? We weren't talking about underage drinking either.

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Sometimes laws are made for this very reason.
And the legal drinking age varies from country to country. Sometimes laws are made for the wrong reason.

mapuc 08-29-13 08:38 AM

Take a look at Sweden, In the 90'ies(can't remember exact year) they made it illegal to buy sex. It was not forbidden to sell. just buying

Had this step any consequences on the society?

Indeed it had. Rape and attempted rape, showed a strong increase in the statistics

These whore however found a way out of this.

They hired a little local room in a basement or what ever. On the sign it could say

"massage services" Every one knew what it was. If someone who didn't know he would be very much surprised after he have been there.

Markus

Wolferz 08-29-13 08:52 AM

All of us are prostitutes. We sell ourselves to companies and corporations for a weekly paycheck. There's no difference other than the work activities performed. Every job carries inherent dangers with it and you must take care to remain safe in your duties.
Making anything and everything illegal only opens the door for black market scum to take it over and profit in a clandestine way. Negating the payment of lawful taxes to central authority and assisting in draining vital resources with no return on investment.
Legal, let's call them companions, would be beneficial to society in ways not considered by the upright prudes. It could very well eliminate rape and/or prevent divorce by offering an outlet for sexual tensions to those who would otherwise have none.
Even Jesus had a whore in his company. He may have even married the girl for all we know. Talk about handing out a shining example of forgiveness.:up:

Betonov 08-29-13 10:02 AM

Imagine how many marriages could be saved by both spouses making a visit to the local hooker/jigolo together. Get all that tension out out of the marriage.

Herr-Berbunch 08-29-13 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2107082)
And the legal drinking age varies from country to country. Sometimes laws are made for the wrong reason.

I think a little drink here and there in your teens isn't too much to ask, I'd rather give a 16 year old a pint of beer or two than the keys to a V8 pick up.

mapuc 08-29-13 12:43 PM

If an adult woman choose to earn money by selling sex to adult males then I'm OK with that

It's not OK when some African or some Philippines or other woman from a third country are lured to USA, Europe or some other country in the west and being forced to prostitution

Markus


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