Still current.

Still preaching bullexcrement.However it maybe written words on secret paper in invisible ink in which case we should be very worried.

Its easy to guarantee, it just needs more people to make sure the laws are stricly enforced
So more enforcement from the EU which is the exact opposite of what he normally calls for:doh:Newspeak eh

Really tough laws eh, thats what is needed.

The reality is that all that is needed is for the public to actually care.
All the legislation is there, the enforcemnet ability is already there. If people simply cannot be arsed to exercise their rights then that is their problem.
If someone has some data on you, a CCTV recording of you walking past a shop perhaps then just write and ask them for the information, the cost of them complying or not complying with the law are fully sufficient to make them mend their ways in view to any violations they may contemplate.

So to summarise the problem isn't the companies or the politicians or judiciary...its simply the lazy people who are at fault.

It's in Apple's 15,000 word T&Cs, who does anything other than glance over the first visible section?

A corporate lawyer maybe, and then they'd bill somebody for reading it! :doh:

If you don't like terms and conditions then don't agree to them.
If you agree to terms and conditions without reading them then that makes you a mug.
If someone is a mug by their own choice then they shouldn't moan about being taken as a mug as it was their choice.

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Ok I would like mroe transparency but you guys know all cell phones need to be "found" to use the nearest attenna right? Smarthphones with built-in GPS and maps like the iPhones or Androids also do the same thing. I enabled "Find my iPhone" so I could remotely lock and wipe my phone in case it is lost or stolen-maybe even like find it if I left it somwhere. I read on another forum this data might be used to track wifi hotspots and cell masts to save power by noting their locations to save search time.

The file is not encrypted meaning anyone who have access to them can read them.

I don't have or want an iPhone.

But a lot of people do have Android, me included, and the use of many of the apps on both includes locating your location. And for years a mobile company / police can triangulate your position so I don't see the fuss - have these worried iPhone users got something to hide? :hmmm:

Exactly! I can not tell you how may times I stop and smile for the security cameras. I'm sure I make the security guys day with some of my dumb looks into the camera. :D There is nothing on my phone but pics of family and some phone numbers. Not to incriminating.

Yeah, pics and numbers are ok, but where have you been? WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?

To the grocery store, why, what business do you have there?

To your home, how dare you?

Just for a drive, how can you afford the fuel?

:o

It's not about hiding something at all. If you don't understand the point why not leave a message on your front door stating where you are going and have been the whole day with the timing.

Or why bother with walls in your home? Why not put all glass walls?


If a person doesn't know what he signed up to or misunderstood the terms he should not be blamed.

Realistically speaking who would read the terms of anything unless it's about you personally and a legal contract? Some with a lot extra time may but I'd think only law practitioner read them.

People do that on Facebook..no need for a message left on the door! :03: Really, it is no big deal that someone can find my every move if my phone is hanging off my droopy pants. Got nothing to hide and not going to some place I should not be. I have the EVO with Android. I shut the GPS down. Heck...why am I in this thread anyway. :hmmm:

Are you sure "wipe my phone" will delete that tracking file ?

Lets say you lose your phone and you remotely wipe it. The person who finds it may be pretty tech savvy and he docks it with his home PC. If the wipe feature didn't delete that file this guy now has tracking data (with time stamps) showing that you goto work at 8:30 every day, where you live, where you work, where you stop at 7:30am 5 days a week (when you drop your kids off at school).

This person shares the file with one of his buddies who likes to rob houses.

I know this scenario is far-fetched but it's far from impossible. If you're not alarmed by the possibility of this happening to you then please continue your happy journey in life.

I wonder how they want to access the data that will be recorded, when the data retention is implemented...

The proposed law in Austria would definitely violate that rule.

I can track my wife with her GPS on my PC when she travels. Course she is aware, nothing we hide, just so I know where she's at on the road.

Our PC's, phones, etc are nothing but boxes that give out info about us. Probably everything we do is looked at by someone, but who cares.
The fact is the most important info about your life is public record that can be seen or bought by anyone. I doubt many care that you watch porn at 3AM on your PC or spent 5 hours telling your life story to everyone on Facebook.

Sure, if I ever break something wrong, I'll tie my cell to a strange dog and run the other way.

The only time I'll have a problem is when they want to install a chip inside me of some sort.

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