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WernherVonTrapp 09-30-10 11:51 AM

I was running at 40' depth and received a "Ship Spotted" report from one of my POs, it would've been nice to be able to radio-in that contact report while at radar depth. Weren't fleetboats actually able to do this with the SD radar antenna?

NorthBeach 09-30-10 05:17 PM

Just curious, why would you want to turn on your radio? No good ever comes of it.

WernherVonTrapp 09-30-10 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NorthBeach (Post 1506579)
Just curious, why would you want to turn on your radio? No good ever comes of it.

I was assigned to a task force that was supporting the Leyte Gulf invasion. Part of my assignment included radioing any warship contacts. I spotted element of Kurita's Center Force but was too close to surface. I just thought there might be some renown in it for me since it was part of my initial assignment.:hmmm:

NorthBeach 09-30-10 07:30 PM

Between Halsey and Kinkaid they have around 1500 planes out there that can fly over 250mph. And, they want YOU to radio in? What next? They gonna have you surface in the middle of the TF and set your boat on fire as a marker?

No thanks. Sparky's yammering has brought us trouble before. So, I took the tubes out of his radio. 10 miles out of port I'll stomp on them and let him reinstall them. "Sorry, Sir. Radio's on the fritz."

Armistead 10-01-10 12:31 AM

It's a shame we don't get renown for reporting contacts. Some of the sub contacts really gave important info that maybe saved the battle. I'm not sure of the range ships pick you up if you actually report them, but seeing that the only thing you get for reporting contacts is the enemy homing in on you, no incentive to do it...be a nice mod, bigger the convoy or TF, more renown.

Sailor Steve 10-01-10 01:47 PM

Why would you get renown for doing something anyone could do. You get renown for sinking ships. That's what a submarine war is about.

Armistead 10-01-10 02:12 PM

C'mon Steve, you're smarter than that. The use of a sub is more than sinking ships. In fact many subs were given the job of reporting contacts with a no shoot order.


Not anyone can report a contact..To report a convoy or TF you must get a visual. The fact is reports saved the day many times. In some cases subs were told not to attack even if they could, just report the contact.

Can't remember the one sub that let a large TF go right over him, came back up later and reported it as instructed. Believe this was the battle of the Philippine Sea. The Skipper was furious he had to follow instructions and dive, but the obvious logic was clear, they didn't want the enemy to know they had been located. A sub attacks, the enemy will then assume the sub has reported it's location, course, speed, ect...That's a lot of important info, certainly it should be worth some renown. I believe this skipper later went back and sunk one of the carriers he reported.

In the game there is no reason to use the contact button, in fact they're reasons you don't want to use it. It only works in favor of the JP's, so why use it. Getting some renown would make it realistic and give it function. Even better, get more points for reporting TF's over convoys as they can pick it up and bigger targets.

Diopos 10-01-10 03:38 PM

You always report or log activity in enemy territory.

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WernherVonTrapp 10-02-10 12:34 PM

Well, now, I realize that anyone can report the location of any ol' Maru in this game but, that's not what I was referring do. Anyway, that aside:

Despite it being historical fact that important strategic information about Japanese warship movements and positions were radioed by submarines, consequently proving to be invaluable to the Pacific Fleet.

Despite the fact that the ability to radio contact reports is an included ability.

Despite the fact that this is a submarine simulation (unless I'm wrong).

The title of this thread is what prompted my input.:O:

Marko 10-02-10 08:58 PM

There was always that I missed from the silent hunter series. I don't know if it is possible but in any station where you can do an observation(periscope, UZO, Hydrophone, Radar) a button that should do only this simple thing. TO place a mark on the map of my position at the moment that I press it and the time.

This would allow me to not jump continuously from map to any other station and make a plotting in a more relaxed way.

(I don't know if there is something like that in SHV)

tomoose 10-02-10 10:23 PM

A working pencil LOL
 
I still think that one little and yet important detail which was available in the previous version and yet only marks a bloody 'X' in this version....GAAAAAAAAAAAHH!! That damn pencil. :D

If you could type in just a few words instead of that 'X' it would add so much IMHO. I seem to remember Silent Service II you could do it and THAT is an 'older' game.

Having said that, at least with an 'X' you can mark something although too many 'X's and you end up being confused (well, I do, so there).:03:

Armistead 10-02-10 10:38 PM

I've only played SH4, it amazes me the cool stuff they left out from previous versions.

Sailor Steve 10-03-10 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1507057)
C'mon Steve, you're smarter than that. The use of a sub is more than sinking ships. In fact many subs were given the job of reporting contacts with a no shoot order.

You get famous for going above and beyond.

WernherVonTrapp 10-03-10 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1507924)
You get famous for going above and beyond.

Does that include the renown you get for sinking a Sampan or a Fishing Boat?:03:

Sailor Steve 10-03-10 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp (Post 1508060)
Does that include the renown you get for sinking a Sampan or a Fishing Boat?:03:

An excellent point. But then, there are those who see the renown system as totally wrong anyway.


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