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KL-alfman 01-29-10 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johan_d (Post 1251671)
Its in the athmosphere..


yup!
I can only tell for GWX3 (as my order of SH4 haven't been delivered yet) that I got no greater sim-experience when leaving Lorient and listening to Jimbuna's collection #1 "All over the place" in bright sunshine, fully loaded and full of expectations and anticipation.
shortly said: I'm addicted

FIREWALL 01-29-10 05:16 PM

One thing we can all agree on. :yep:

You don't have to connect to the internet to play SHIII or SHIV. :03:


edit: Offline :DL

Kremmen 01-29-10 07:34 PM

Hehe,went to defrag and got a message saying not enough free hd space to run the defrag prog so thought I'd better do some housekeeping.
Down to 9 now :D

sergei 01-30-10 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kremmen (Post 1252032)
Down to 9 now :D

I see you are dealing with your addiction :03:

Jimbuna 01-30-10 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KL-alfman (Post 1251841)
yup!
I can only tell for GWX3 (as my order of SH4 haven't been delivered yet) that I got no greater sim-experience when leaving Lorient and listening to Jimbuna's collection #1 "All over the place" in bright sunshine, fully loaded and full of expectations and anticipation.
shortly said: I'm addicted

I've another gramaphone pack almost ready for release http://www.psionguild.org/forums/ima...ies/pirate.gif

KL-alfman 01-30-10 05:34 PM

glad to hear that! :up:

karamazovnew 01-30-10 08:02 PM

I play both. I play SH3 with GWX and ACM, usually from 43 onwards for the challenge. However, convoy shadowing and single merchant attacks are way too easy. The ships are slow and their course and speed are steady.

In SH4 with OMEGU (OM without OMEGU is like GWX without OLC) it's a real challenge to hit a ship from more than 3000m away. They vary their course and speed a lot and the convoys are not neatly arranged. Sometimes it's complete mayhem and you have to adjust very quickly. Everything is much more unpredictable. The escorts are easier to fool BUT one hole in the bulkhead means certain death as you can't repair on the sea floor and the subs sink very quickly. One more problem is that unlike in GWX, OM throws planes at you from 1939... and they're ruthless seeing you even below water :haha:

My style of play is exactly the same though... However I find that the visual sensors in OM are perfect, allowing you to sneak up on ships, do surface attacks and infiltrate convoys in rough weather. SH4 has a much better platform but it was mainly tailored for the US campaign so it will never feel like GWX no matter what you do.

karamazovnew 01-31-10 06:01 PM

Actually I take it back... I've had what must be the worst ever patrol in GWX... Febr 1940

It rained for 2 weeks and a total of 4 weeks of 15m/s waves. I never laod saves so I expected the weather to improve every 3 days, or hours, whatever... Despite this, I actually managed to sink a few good ships and even a V-sub. I spent 4 hours(real hours) shadowing a convoy waiting for the weather to clear up. As they approached Scapa, I decided to attack. I sank two 6k ton ships and spent another hour making fools out of the escorts. I turned back to base with 5 eels left, I had enough of that patrol. 30k tons in all, not bad considering how many shots were actually BLIND. As I reached the Danemark shore guess what. Freakin Crash To Desktop. Luckily I had saved just before engaging the convoy. Loaded up only to see it was a corrupted save... :damn: I'm going back to SH4, I can't take this save crap anymore.

utops 02-01-10 05:57 PM

Yeah plastic ships and laggy water
GUI is nothing like a subsim i rather say it looks like scfi cosmic strategy game (something like old K240 for Amiga) - sqared buttons glowing here and there.
Besides in SH4 when i find one ship i know if i stay in this zone longer i find many of them and they probaly will be same as first one. Dissapearing ship is another problem in SH4 its happen to me many times, no matter what mod i use when in sh3 only one and my most part of nolifeness is builded on sh3GWX
i mean i eat teeth on that game as a gamer.
Last Sh4 dislike for me is crew and medal awards - i can`t really bound to the crew in this game, don`t remember names and do not know who deserve medal ,who was only place filler etc...
Medal awards is broken because i get twice medal of honor, silver stars on shirt in number of five.

As oldschool gamer and sim fan i must have good medal award system, in sh3 is fine, newspapers from the frontline (sh3commander nighclub is good substituter) and more more randomness in sinking mechanics and whole gameplay in general.

Still like Sh4 with TMO and OM but im back to it for max week and then back to SH3 again for a carrier or two
Peace!

Jimbuna 02-02-10 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karamazovnew (Post 1254174)
Actually I take it back... I've had what must be the worst ever patrol in GWX... Febr 1940

It rained for 2 weeks and a total of 4 weeks of 15m/s waves. I never laod saves so I expected the weather to improve every 3 days, or hours, whatever... Despite this, I actually managed to sink a few good ships and even a V-sub. I spent 4 hours(real hours) shadowing a convoy waiting for the weather to clear up. As they approached Scapa, I decided to attack. I sank two 6k ton ships and spent another hour making fools out of the escorts. I turned back to base with 5 eels left, I had enough of that patrol. 30k tons in all, not bad considering how many shots were actually BLIND. As I reached the Danemark shore guess what. Freakin Crash To Desktop. Luckily I had saved just before engaging the convoy. Loaded up only to see it was a corrupted save... :damn: I'm going back to SH4, I can't take this save crap anymore.

You certainly have a problem somewhere in your install...mores the pity http://www.psionguild.org/forums/ima...ies/pirate.gif

utops 02-02-10 05:23 PM

Jimbuna,
Im experiencing CTD when going back to Wilhelmshaven everytime on enterance to the main port bay, but i learn to save near Helgoland,load and it is okay, so maybe there is somewhere memory leak or TC mess up with something, hard to tell.
All,
Tip from me is save often and do not make mod soup.


Im not going back to Sh4 for now...
waiting for workaround touches neutral shiping and good sinking mechanics,because im tired to watch replays every time, when another sinking ship doing exactly same thing as the previous one no matter where i put my eel.

Jimbuna again,

High explosive ships do not harm my wolf anymore
IIRC in GWX 2 tanker filled with something really harsh blow of my conning tower when i try take a close up and hear sinking death song.

Today amunition ship in convoy blow 30m near sub and nothing happens...
If GWX3 manulal mention this in changelog then sorry i never asked :)

bigboywooly 02-02-10 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by utops (Post 1256397)
Jimbuna,
Im experiencing CTD when going back to Wilhelmshaven everytime on enterance to the main port bay, but i learn to save near Helgoland,load and it is okay, so maybe there is somewhere memory leak or TC mess up with something, hard to tell.
All,
Tip from me is save often and do not make mod soup.


Im not going back to Sh4 for now...
waiting for workaround touches neutral shiping and good sinking mechanics,because im tired to watch replays every time, when another sinking ship doing exactly same thing as the previous one no matter where i put my eel.

Jimbuna again,

High explosive ships do not harm my wolf anymore
IIRC in GWX 2 tanker filled with something really harsh blow of my conning tower when i try take a close up and hear sinking death song.

Today amunition ship in convoy blow 30m near sub and nothing happens...
If GWX3 manulal mention this in changelog then sorry i never asked :)

CTD near Wilhelmshafen eh ?
Any other mods other than GWX ?

utops 02-02-10 06:14 PM

Waterstream and Exhaust Kombimod V2.1 for GWX3
Torpedo damage final 2.0
SH4flagmod for GWX 3
Foam from jimbuna`s filefront
QueenMaryArmed
LifeBoats&Debrisv4
Rapt0r`s Interface

No conflicts,overwrites nothing interfere with another.

But like i said, when i load my save that i do it near Helgoland i can easly swim into base without CTD.
short patrols ~10 days also = no CTD

ain`t that strange?

Jimbuna 02-03-10 04:03 PM

Yes very strange :hmmm:

The only mod I can see above that may play a part is the Queen Mary Armed....could be an ID conflict with something in Wilhelmshaven harbour.

Not sure mind because I don't know precisely which mod it is and from whence it came :06:

sergei 02-03-10 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1257549)
The only mod I can see above that may play a part is the Queen Mary . . . Not sure mind because I don't know precisely which mod it is and from whence it came :06:

That be one of Von Dos' ships.


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