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-   -   [QUE] Boycott / mass dynamic things not allowed? (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160804)

urfisch 01-26-10 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1247323)
they in fact ARE important to me

I AM rather upset about a lot of it

difference is...

im just being fair and unbiased

FAIR, is a word, that not seems to count very much these days in business...

:cry:

IanC 01-26-10 05:59 PM

It's not so complicated. Subsim.com wants to keep good relations with Ubisoft. So you can't use subsim.com as a vehicle to inflict any financial damage to Ubisoft.

GoldenRivet 01-26-10 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by urfisch (Post 1247325)
FAIR, is a word, that not seems to count very much these days in business...

:cry:

true, but I learned very young in life that you dont always get what you want.... nor do you always get exactly what you thought you were going to get.

All im saying is walking into the SH5 forum is like walking into an out of control kindergarten class room.

Some of the kids are merrily playing with the building blocks or coloring, the rest are crying and stomping up and down because of a hundred different reasons.

it only takes five seconds to sit up straight and tall, and say to yourself "Im going to be a grown man about this and reserve my judgements until all of the evidence is available."

sadly, thats WAY too much for some folks to do.

Safe-Keeper 01-26-10 06:03 PM

Wow. Over-reacting much?

I can perfectly well understand why Subsim is shutting down stupid "boycott" threads, and Subsim is a private forum, free to be run as it pleases the owner.

Gilbou 01-26-10 06:06 PM

Calling for Boycott is too much.
Not buying the game, buying it and not being happy about some of its limitations (or seen as such) or delaying the buy until there's a Subsim review is a matter of personnal choice.

Calling for boycott is like.. trying to impose what you think is right to others, which I do think is wrong. Let each person choose and that's it.

ETR3(SS) 01-26-10 06:09 PM

Calling for a boycott and telling someone to boycott a game are two different things. I don't recall reading any post telling (aka demanding) people to boycott SH5.

GoldenRivet 01-26-10 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS) (Post 1247352)
Calling for a boycott and telling someone to boycott a game are two different things. I don't recall reading any post telling (aka demanding) people to boycott SH5.

I simply point you here

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...0&postcount=17

Letum 01-26-10 06:14 PM

Under that logic Subsim could never give a negative game review.

GoldenRivet 01-26-10 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum (Post 1247363)
Under that logic Subsim could never give a negative game review.

an honest in depth review is one thing.

a full on boycott war is a total other issue:salute:

Letum 01-26-10 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1247364)
an honest in depth review is one thing.

a full on boycott war is a total other issue:salute:


But SubSim wouldn't be waging such a war.

No more than subsim is waging a war against 'political party x' when
someone in General Topics says people shouldn't vote for them.

GoldenRivet 01-26-10 06:18 PM

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160798

This discussion ends here for me.

with respect,

~GR

ETR3(SS) 01-26-10 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1247355)
I simply point you here

Quote:

Originally Posted by IanC (Post 1247330)
It's not so complicated. Subsim.com wants to keep good relations with Ubisoft. So you can't use subsim.com as a vehicle to inflict any financial damage to Ubisoft.

I'm sorry but I fail to see how a personal opinion of a subsim member applies to my comment. Also IMHO it seems pretty obvious at times what Ubisoft marketing thinks of their "good relations" with subsim.com

Onkel Neal 01-26-10 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1247299)

Furthermore, as Subsim.com is a place for the promotion of submarine simulations and the companies / individuals that develop them, we feel that our forums are not the place for discussion or suggestion of boycott or any other actions which work against the development of present or future submarine simulations."

Wow, you wanna job? :up:

Simply this, guys: boycotts are the nuclear weapon of community activism. People as individuals can determine for themselves if they want to buy a game or not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum (Post 1247369)
But SubSim wouldn't be waging such a war.

No more than subsim is waging a war against 'political party x' when
someone in General Topics says people shouldn't vote for them.

You are right, but the core mission statement for Subsim has always been, to support sub game developers and the people who play subsims. Politics and sub games are apples and oranges.

Letum 01-26-10 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1247378)
People as individuals can determine for themselves if they want to buy a game or not.


Exactly....so why the need for censorship?

Dowly 01-26-10 06:27 PM

Subsim is Ubisoft's bitch. :DL


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