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CCIP 11-01-08 07:58 AM

Ah come on, lighten up guys.

For the record, I'm not even taking any side here. I just wish we'd lighten up over it a little, I mean, obviously no game works for everyone. I have no plans to play FO3 - even assuming I had a computer good enough to play it, I probably wouldn't get it anyway. If anything, I'm more likely to check out the two classic Fallout games - but not before I finish my playthrough of Jagged Alliance 2 :p

ReallyDedPoet 11-01-08 09:03 AM

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, let's respect that and keep it above bar
here please :yep::D.

There is no need for personal attacks just because somebody does not
share a particular point of view. As CCIP mentioned, lighten up folks.

Also, let's remember to stay on topic as per the OP.


RDP

GlobalExplorer 11-01-08 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP
If anything, I'm more likely to check out the two classic Fallout games - but not before I finish my playthrough of Jagged Alliance 2 :p

For gods sake do it! The combat is not as good as in JA2, but still extremely good for a RPG. And the graphics really don't matter after a short adaptation period.

I would start with Fallout 1. The game grabs you from the first minute, when you leave the vault. F2 has a pretty slow and strange beginning, and that was actually the reason I didn't get into it many years ago.

kiwi_2005 11-02-08 03:25 AM

Global Explorer would you buy Elder Scrolls V:hmm:. Aparently its in the making. :rock:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...title-for-2010

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008...livion-and-on/

Raptor1 11-02-08 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005
Global Explorer would you buy Elder Scrolls V:hmm:. Aparently its in the making. :rock:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...title-for-2010

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008...livion-and-on/

I think he made it quite clear that he wouldn't buy any game from Bethesda based on prejudice

Ah, well, everyone's entitled to their own opinions

Wolfehunter 11-02-08 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer
major press reviewers my ass

major title, big publisher score: 95% +/- 5%
indy title, strategy / sim that requires reading, learning curve, score: 70 +/- 10%

Quote:

the huge thread here a couple of weeks ago which was basically GlobalExplorer vs. a bunch of other people on whether Fallout 3 sucks or not?
Rilder, Wolfehunter, etc can you take over here? I think I'm getting a bad rep here if I go on with the bethbashing ..

I didn't want to ruin this post so I kept my mouth shut. Anyhow games out and some will like it others won't. I will not touch it ever. I'm going to leave this post with that note. No need to add flames.

SUBMAN1 11-02-08 12:57 PM

Bethsoft is no giant game publisher BTW. They are puny, which is why you get different and actually entertaining titles from them, instead of the cookie cutter crap that stems from a publisher like EA. Bethsoft takes chances on smaller publishers. Akella for example. Would EA take on a title from Akella? Never. They are too small fry to even show up on the radar screen.

Starting to get the point? Bethsoft has released a buggy title or two, but that is because they are close to an indy outfit and actually will bring out a title that no one else will. To their credit, they eventually patch it too.

I suggest you support these smaller publishers since if companies like Bethsoft were not around, I wouldn't be playing anymore games on a PC.

-S

Stormin Norman 11-03-08 04:31 PM

It's so stupid to boycott games just because they have copy protection. Soon you won't have anything to play.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robsoie
question :

If according to Bethesda : "For Fallout 3’s copy protection on PC, we use the same security model as we did for Oblivion - a simple disc check. We only use SecuRom’s disc check functionality for copy protection" , why the choice of using Securom that is also known for some side effect regarding performance and compatibility ?

For "simple" cd check there are way simpler copy protections that have none of those side effects, do not install "services" and drivers, and more importantly for a publisher cost a lot less than the latest Securom software contracts.

Anyways, despite i was looking forward to get it one day, it is now one more game i just added to my boycott list.


Robsoie 11-03-08 05:22 PM

Quote:

It's so stupid to boycott games just because they have copy protection
I boycott DRM, hidden drivers/services and rootkits based copy protection, maybe you don't know but there are lot of other copy protections than these kind of POS.
And i doubt you judging my choice as being stupid will make me change my mind http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/imag...icon_smile.gif

NefariousKoel 11-04-08 01:41 AM

In other news..

I've heard that Empire Total War will force you to install Steam, even on the physical DVD version. Complete with "phone home" installation requirement and that crap running in the background.

Looks like another game just dropped off my list due to DRM. :down:

Rilder 11-04-08 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer

Rilder, Wolfehunter, etc can you take over here? I think I'm getting a bad rep here if I go on with the bethbashing

Huh?

/me wanders back to dwarf fortress, the game that is better then all games released this year.

Wolfehunter 11-04-08 08:01 AM

I say good riddance to them. If they leave the PC world that would make me happy.:yep:

Newer companies like dwarf fortress will spawn up and make real PC games. Like it was done in the past. Many classic games came from beginner companies. Today these established companies are trying to condition us to enjoy crap... their crap so I say good riddance.

Let them specialize in Console games. Fine by me.:up:

Rilder 11-04-08 09:46 AM

Dwarf fortress isn't a game company its a guy and his brother. :P

They make a fair bit of cash just off donations though. :yep:
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=26677

Wolfehunter 11-04-08 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rilder
Dwarf fortress isn't a game company its a guy and his brother. :P

They make a fair bit of cash just off donations though. :yep:
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=26677

Exactly my point. Alot of these start ups tend to be a few tallented individuals who take a chance. ;)

GlobalExplorer 11-04-08 02:04 PM

As to the topic of this thread there is now a discussion going on among the Bethhaters, some people say F3 is actually not such a bad game as expected, and more comparable to Morrowind than to Oblivion. There are others who say the dialogs lack any quality, the combat is stupid (you might have seen the video of the guy that took 32 headshots), the gameworld is ridiculously compressed and offers everything on a silver plate, etc. The kind of things why many people made up their minds, based on the pre-release material and Todd Howard's rumblings.

But there is really a new tone in the discussion. I have to say that while Bethesda surely didnt deliver the game I expected, it seems the criticism was a bit too harsh. A lot of the RPG fanatics are actually playing it now, if only for the lulz, or because there's simply nothing better around atm, or because there are things to enjoy actually. Some say with mods (reworked dialogs) it might even become a game that the critics could enjoy.


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