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Diopos 10-05-08 01:50 AM

Keep it within the WWII framework.
Practice makes perfect! :yep:
SH10 will be a great WWII subsim "out of the box". No bugs, great graphics, good "physics" for boats, planes, weapons and physical elements, a proper strategic and operational setting, challenging AI, a SPHERICAL EARTH and for the extreme grognards navigation by stars (which of course needs a SPHERICAL EARTH)!

...ah here comes the doctor with the pills.
-Two please!

PS: It's not a spherical earth, it's a "spheroid" earth, but I'd settle for a spherical one...

Christopher Snow 10-05-08 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diopos
Keep it within the WWII framework.
Practice makes perfect! :yep:
SH10 will be a great WWII subsim "out of the box". No bugs, great graphics, good "physics" for boats, planes, weapons and physical elements, a proper strategic and operational setting, challenging AI, a SPHERICAL EARTH and for the extreme grognards navigation by stars (which of course needs a SPHERICAL EARTH)!

...ah here comes the doctor with the pills.
-Two please!

PS: It's not a spherical earth, it's a "spheroid" earth, but I'd settle for a spherical one...

Very good!

Re: Spherical...

Even though I do realize you are kidding....

...is it also possible that you are, at the same time imagining "spherical (full surround 360) projection?" Are you even thinking of it in "what if we could do this...or see this" terms?

I ask because this very much IS a viewing solution I'm working toward (inspired by "sim-racing" and (to a lesser degree) by flight sims (IL2 series).

CS

Adriatico 10-05-08 02:44 AM

Silent Hunter is WWII brand... It would not be that without DasBoot environment...

Even this SH4 trip to Pacific... ended up - in half of Subsim moding their best to push it back to Atlantic.

:know:

Also, some high-tech sim in modern age would be "crime" against players from non-English backgrounds...
Many guys who like SH3 have problems to follow even GWX manual... they are not forum members and we are not avare of them.

Christopher Snow 10-05-08 03:14 AM

For my part, I can accept the argument FOR WWII...because I generally agree.

I'm less convinced about the merits of the "Das-Boot" environment. I have the idea that our US "fleet boats" were rather more comfortable, for instance (right up to the point where they got you killed, anyway) than were any of the U-boats.

The argument about non-English speakers holds less water, too, in my view.

In the real world (the flight sim world, and the REAL flight world) English is THE SINGLE COMMMON language of choice. Not because it's necessarily easy to learn, and not necessarily because most practitioners (of the particulatr art) speak it...but because it's relatively accessible to everyone (provided they will put in the work required to learn it).

English CAN be learned by almost everyone.


CS

Sailor Steve 10-05-08 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adriatico
Silent Hunter is WWII brand... It would not be that without DasBoot environment...

Even this SH4 trip to Pacific... ended up - in half of Subsim moding their best to push it back to Atlantic.

Funny, Silent Hunter started in the Pacific first. SH2 was originally advertised as 'SH with u-boats'. SH3 may or may not have been an attempt to fix SH2, but Silent Hunter has its roots in the Pacific and that theater has just as much claim on it as the Atlantic.

Which isn't to say I want one over the other. I like both.:sunny:

Christopher Snow 10-05-08 03:33 AM

I agree, Steve.

The SH series screams "PACIFIC" to me, in fact.

And "Aces of the Deep"=Atlantic.


Just me, perhaps, but that's the way I see it.


CS

The General 10-05-08 04:39 AM

"DON'T VOTE!!"

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0vtHwWReGU0

Jimbuna 10-05-08 05:16 AM

Those who vote WWII win a cigar.

The problem now is guessing which theatre...ATO, PTO, or both http://www.psionguild.org/forums/ima...ies/pirate.gif

Welcome aboard Dr.KawleKawle http://www.psionguild.org/forums/ima...s/thumbsup.gif

G.K. 10-05-08 05:28 AM

WWII with both Pacific and Atlantic theatres and at least 4 playable nations ( 6 better...:) ).

BTW this really should be sticky so the boys from UBI can find it without problems and see the final result...:hmm:

WWI IS a thing that has to be done, but something like 1914 SoF II sounds much better... but quite an irrealistic:cry:

Adriatico 10-05-08 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher Snow
For my part, I can accept the argument FOR WWII...because I generally agree.

I'm less convinced about the merits of the "Das-Boot" environment. I have the idea that our US "fleet boats" were rather more comfortable, for instance (right up to the point where they got you killed, anyway) than were any of the U-boats.

The argument about non-English speakers holds less water, too, in my view.

In the real world (the flight sim world, and the REAL flight world) English is THE SINGLE COMMMON language of choice. Not because it's necessarily easy to learn, and not necessarily because most practitioners (of the particulatr art) speak it...but because it's relatively accessible to everyone (provided they will put in the work required to learn it).

English CAN be learned by almost everyone.


CS

Depends... to what level ?

Young kids from Asian countries, for example, would understand English to play Call of Duty or Counter Strike... but don't expect them to speak or read like Navy officers from Norfolk.

Average "stranger" from Subsim, as I can see, is top Engleash speaker compared to average player in Argentina, Ukraine, Korea, Turkey ...etc. (random examples)

Afterall, simulation software should be relaxation after shool or office, not another "headache" in your day...

kwbgjh2 10-05-08 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna
Those who vote WWII win a cigar.

The problem now is guessing which theatre...ATO, PTO, or both http://www.psionguild.org/forums/ima...ies/pirate.gif

Welcome aboard Dr.KawleKawle http://www.psionguild.org/forums/ima...s/thumbsup.gif


Whatever theatre the developer decide to put in the game.... as long it remains in WWII i stay with Silent Hunter

:yep::yep:

Reliant121 10-05-08 06:29 AM

To be honest I think WW II Has been done a bit to death now. I think one more WWII game could be squeezed from the fan-base, then it needs to change. I think a Cold War version would be excellent. I would be itching to tear into the seas with a Foxtrot class or a Alpha class.

Seminole 10-05-08 06:57 AM

Quote:

If I lose, I will go quietly.

WWII=62%
Cold War=27%
Other two=not worth mentioning



C-YAH...:lol:



(not that I don't think SHV itself...at this point... is but a hypthetical near(possibly far) future senario anyway)...:shifty: :yep: ;)

Rilder 10-05-08 07:48 AM

Das boot... IN SPACE!

On a serious note, I wish it'd be a game that sort of merges the Pacific and Atlantic theaters, maybe add in some british and Japaneese subs to play with.

The General 10-05-08 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rilder
Das boot... IN SPACE!

You know, the submarine in space thing was kinda done in the last reel of a litttle film called Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. Check it out, it's an awesome movie.


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