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OneToughHerring 08-29-08 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomen
Disliking, or having a negative opinion on someone does not make him/her a racist. My personal opinion of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson is not much better than my opinion on Billary Clinton. I think all three are crooks and liars.

Does that mean I am racist or a chauvinist. Nope. It just means I do not like the persons in question.

Actually I was asking SUBMAN1 but thanks for the answer anyway.

And yes, to answer Digital Trucker, racism is elsewhere too. However, not all countries can act out their racism in their foreign or indeed domestic policies in such a large scale as the US can.

Nisgeis 08-29-08 03:03 PM

Wow, this is amazing.

Now, I'm not an officinado of US racism, but I've seen the films where people say 'Boy' and that's a derogatory term, but I've never seen a film or TV production where 'Black Boy' was a derogatory term.

It's clear to me that Jimmy Carter is supporting the candidate, but as he is 84 years old, he may have had a bit of a pause in his cadence. Now, I'm not lucky enough to have grandparents that made it to that age, but I'd like to think they wouldn't have been stoned to death in public for stumbling over a single word.

But the really important thing to remember for all of you people troubled about this is that people should be making up their own minds. Someone could give the most racist speech ever and if a voter agreed with it, do you really doubt the way they'd vote?

Public speakers only change people's points of view if they are able to be swayed. I'm fairly sure that if someone is racist against a certain group, then a TV speech isn't going to change their opinion. No matter if that opinion was for or against.

Digital_Trucker 08-29-08 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
And yes, to answer Digital Trucker, racism is elsewhere too. However, not all countries can act out their racism in their foreign or indeed domestic policies in such a large scale as the US can.

You must be talking about a different country than the one I live in. Or perhaps, you view it differently because you don't reside here. What foreign or domestic policies of the USA do you view as racist?:hmm: And are you speaking of the citizens of the country or the government of the country?

Frame57 08-29-08 03:13 PM

Carter, the one former submariner I am ashamed of that wore dolphins. This dirt bag also makes anti-semitic remarks regarding Israel. Does not surprize me at all that he would do this as well. He is why i voted for Regan and Bush is why I am now an Independant.

Nisgeis 08-29-08 03:31 PM

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This dirt bag also makes anti-semitic remarks regarding Israel.

Sorry for my stupidity and logic, but isn't Israel a country and therefore immune to anti-semitic remarks?

Frame57 08-29-08 03:46 PM

You are not stupid, but the context of his speech and clear support for Islamic terrorist organizations is clear on his stance with the Democracy of Israel.

Nisgeis 08-29-08 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Frame57
You are not stupid, but the context of his speech and clear support for Islamic terrorist organizations is clear on his stance with the Democracy of Israel.

Can you quote the parts where he says his views on support for Islamic terrorist organisations is clear?

I'm just not getting that.

Perhaps you are reading into things something that is not there?

If you are reading into things, something that is not there, then that's the true badge of a religous fundamentalist and well done you :up:.

OneToughHerring 08-29-08 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker
You must be talking about a different country than the one I live in. Or perhaps, you view it differently because you don't reside here. What foreign or domestic policies of the USA do you view as racist?:hmm: And are you speaking of the citizens of the country or the government of the country?

What policies? The whole thing? We are talking about a country that was founded by destroying several other cultures and built by importing slave labour from Africa. USA is also almost always at war, this type of behaviour seems to need and feed a kind of inherent racist mentality.

Happy Times 08-29-08 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker
You must be talking about a different country than the one I live in. Or perhaps, you view it differently because you don't reside here. What foreign or domestic policies of the USA do you view as racist?:hmm: And are you speaking of the citizens of the country or the government of the country?

What policies? The whole thing? We are talking about a country that was founded by destroying several other cultures and built by importing slave labour from Africa. USA is also almost always at war, this type of behaviour seems to need and feed a kind of inherent racist mentality.

You really are twisted, maybe you should chance your name to OneSickPuppy.

Regards, Facist

Digital_Trucker 08-29-08 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker
You must be talking about a different country than the one I live in. Or perhaps, you view it differently because you don't reside here. What foreign or domestic policies of the USA do you view as racist?:hmm: And are you speaking of the citizens of the country or the government of the country?

What policies? The whole thing? We are talking about a country that was founded by destroying several other cultures and built by importing slave labour from Africa. USA is also almost always at war, this type of behaviour seems to need and feed a kind of inherent racist mentality.

Forget I asked the question, if you're going to rabidly rave about things that happened hundreds of years ago, I assume that you can't give a rational answer.

Happy Times 08-29-08 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker
You must be talking about a different country than the one I live in. Or perhaps, you view it differently because you don't reside here. What foreign or domestic policies of the USA do you view as racist?:hmm: And are you speaking of the citizens of the country or the government of the country?

What policies? The whole thing? We are talking about a country that was founded by destroying several other cultures and built by importing slave labour from Africa. USA is also almost always at war, this type of behaviour seems to need and feed a kind of inherent racist mentality.

Forget I asked the question, if you're going to rabidly rave about things that happened hundred of years ago, I assume that you can't give a rational answer.

You wont get one, he will claim the Cristian Fundamentalists, Military industrial complex, Mafia and Mossad rule the ignorant, racist, facist, redneck American people on their genocides and evil plans over the globe.

Mush Martin 08-29-08 05:32 PM

What is the actual purpose of this thread the furtherance of the
betterment of society or subsim as a community.

to me it looks an awful lot like an attack
and just for the record.

your statements show you seeming to be prejudiced against
national level politicians. do you know any?

you see a prejudice is broken down to mean to Pre judge someone
based on essoteric impressions.

so I ask again do you know even one of the people youve publicly
slandered? or are you prejudiced?:nope:

Thomen 08-29-08 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mush Martin
What is the actual purpose of this thread the furtherance of the
betterment of society or subsim as a community.

to me it looks an awful lot like an attack
and just for the record.

your statements show you seeming to be prejudiced against
national level politicians. do you know any?

you see a prejudice is broken down to mean to Pre judge someone
based on essoteric impressions.

so I ask again do you know even one of the people youve publicly
slandered? or are you prejudiced?:nope:

I will just be blunt and assume you are talking me, since you did not quote anybody.

So, if you do not know anybody personally you are not allowed to form an opinion about him or her? Do I get that right?
Gee.. how do you elect officals? A Lottery?

OneToughHerring 08-29-08 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker
You must be talking about a different country than the one I live in. Or perhaps, you view it differently because you don't reside here. What foreign or domestic policies of the USA do you view as racist?:hmm: And are you speaking of the citizens of the country or the government of the country?

What policies? The whole thing? We are talking about a country that was founded by destroying several other cultures and built by importing slave labour from Africa. USA is also almost always at war, this type of behaviour seems to need and feed a kind of inherent racist mentality.

Forget I asked the question, if you're going to rabidly rave about things that happened hundreds of years ago, I assume that you can't give a rational answer.

Oh I'm not saying that there isn't anything wrong with, for example, the country I live in terms to race issues, like I said these are global issues. However if we are discussing race issues in USA then I'll focus on the past, present and possible future of that country.

And if you think the native American question is "hundred years ago" and bygone era then I'd say you're wrong. The native American issue is still very much alive, as are the African Americans about slavery. Obama isn't talking about reparations for slavery but the issue lingers. Although I'm sure whites in US would most likely see these issues as ancient history and over and dealt with.

Digital_Trucker 08-29-08 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
Oh I'm not saying that there isn't anything wrong with, for example, the country I live in terms to race issues, like I said these are global issues. However if we are discussing race issues in USA then I'll focus on the past, present and possible future of that country.

And if you think the native American question is "hundred years ago" and bygone era then I'd say you're wrong. The native American issue is still very much alive, as are the African Americans about slavery. Obama isn't talking about reparations for slavery but the issue lingers. Although I'm sure whites in US would most likely see these issues as ancient history and over and dealt with.

Obama isn't talking about reparation for slaves, because there are no slaves to pay reparations to. I wonder how many folks are alive today that even remember a relative that was a slave. Slavery was abolished 143 years ago. I agree, it was a horrible thing and shouldn't ever have occurred. On the other hand, the slaves own country-men were known to round them up and sell them to the slave holders, too, so should reparations be paid to the remaining relatives of slaves by the country of Africa? How about the slave traders (Danish and French among others) who transported them here? Should the Danes and the French also pay reparations for their part in the transport of slaves?

What our ancestors did to the Native Americans was abhorrent also. Rather than claim that all of America is rife with racism because of these happenings from hundreds of years ago, perhaps, you, in all your wisdom could suggest where we go from here? After all, we have no choice, we are at this point in time and I doubt that we will be able to go back in time to right these wrongs.

I don't advocate forgetting the past, neither should one live in it.


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