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jimmie 12-02-07 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaeger
....(snip)....by taking a parallel course and speed with their own boat.

Wow. This really sounds authentic to me! I think I've done this method once or twice just by accident, tho.

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Originally Posted by Jaeger
....(snip)....and how often did they have to estimate hight or length? were there formulars for estimation? are there some real id manuals, which could be recherched today?

I found Hitman's this description interesting:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=123373&page=5

And I guess mast height was taken a bit differently than what we do in the game sinece draft of the ship must have varied by payloads.

Subject 12-02-07 12:10 PM

He! Just yesterday I got a delivery from my bookdealer. One of the books was this:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...0III/Front.jpg

Titel: "Weyers Pocketbook of Naval Fleets 1937"

Here's a sample page:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...II/Sample1.jpg

In the advertising section there's a page from Fried. Krupp Germaniawerft A.G. Kiel-Gaarden:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...I/Weddigen.jpg

If interested I can get the last picture scanned in a better quality...

I think he still have a copy or two http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...es/scratch.gif

Stealth Hunter 12-02-07 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Subject
He! Just yesterday I got a delivery from my bookdealer. One of the books was this:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...0III/Front.jpg

Titel: "Weyers Pocketbook of Naval Fleets 1937"

Here's a sample page:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...II/Sample1.jpg

In the advertising section there's a page from Fried. Krupp Germaniawerft A.G. Kiel-Gaarden:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...I/Weddigen.jpg

If interested I can get the last picture scanned in a better quality...

I think he still have a copy or two http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...es/scratch.gif

Cost of this item?

bigboywooly 12-02-07 05:04 PM

http://mysite.verizon.net/noder/germanbooks.htm

Has a 41\42 copy for $75

Subject 12-02-07 05:07 PM

I paid 13£ = 17 euro or 25$.

Jaeger 12-02-07 06:11 PM

i made an observation of such a book but missed the point of sale... 13 € endprice...

indeed nice one. is it possible to use it for sh3? anything like a c2 or something like that in it? what about the terminology? do thery call them c2, t3 and so on?

Jonathan 12-02-07 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan
Man...one of those ships had a seaplane on the back of it...I wonder how successful there getting that thing on and off the boat and into the drink.

Most battleships and indeed heavy cruisers carried seaplanes
Usually on\off loaded with a crane though some had short skid sections with catapaults the aircraft could take straight off from

Arado being hauled back on the Blucher

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ucherarado.jpg

Bismarck hoisting its back onboard

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2...oly/arado6.jpg

And a Kingfisher coming off USS Quincy

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2...oly/k01950.jpg

And a Walrus being bought back onboard HMS Nigeria

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2...oly/Walrus.jpg

It just seems so DANGEROUS! Seaplanes are notorious for leaks, aren't they? And then there is the surf and the waves. A plane is not a boot!

bigboywooly 12-03-07 12:06 AM

True but sending an aircraft aloft increased the ships visual range by hundreds of miles
Very usefull if you are a surface ship looking for a convoy or the oppositions warships

PhantomLord 12-03-07 06:08 AM

Another important ID manual was:

Erich Gröner, Handelsflotten der Welt 1942 (Merchant fleets of the world)

So far as i know the last full release was 1942 with an addition from 1944.

Together with:

Erich Gröner, Suchliste für Schiffsnamen (Search list for ship names)


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