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thehiredgun 06-14-07 10:17 AM

taking a break
 
Because of big boy woolly,mush Martin,Jimbuna & several others i stayed with SH-3 with no regrets & so much appreciation ! Because of disabilitys i am very limited as to my recreation, this SH-3 has filled a gap like you would'nt believe !!! . I thank all who have helped me with various problems & with special thanks to Mush martin for my addiction to the uberboat !

Jimbuna 06-15-07 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by thehiredgun
Because of big boy woolly,mush Martin,Jimbuna & several others i stayed with SH-3 with no regrets & so much appreciation ! Because of disabilitys i am very limited as to my recreation, this SH-3 has filled a gap like you would'nt believe !!! . I thank all who have helped me with various problems & with special thanks to Mush martin for my addiction to the uberboat !

Thank you sir....that is very gratifying....any time I can be of service, you are most welcome :up:

Mush Martin 06-15-07 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by thehiredgun
Because of big boy woolly,mush Martin,Jimbuna & several others i stayed with SH-3 with no regrets & so much appreciation ! Because of disabilitys i am very limited as to my recreation, this SH-3 has filled a gap like you would'nt believe !!! . I thank all who have helped me with various problems & with special thanks to Mush martin for my addiction to the uberboat !


:|\\oh stop your making me blush.

Growler 06-15-07 12:52 PM

I don't know if it's just me, or maybe others have observed this, too.

I've been on a lot of boards... more than is healthy, prolly. One thing that's common in all of them is that I just plain don't agree with some folks there.

But no matter how reasoned the argument, or how considered the discussion, the simple truth remains: Nothing I, or he, or she types is going to change someone else's mind when it comes down to staunchly-held feelings or beliefs.

Another observation: Many of the posters on many boards use those boards as their "rant toilets". This is where they show up to vomit up all their dissapointment with whatever game the board's about. Their very presence is an irritation to those who feel differently about the same game.

Lastly: Sometimes, even the good people have bad days, and their posts become unintentionally hurtful. It can be a right pain in the arse to interpret some people's posts for meaning.

Look, I don't know BBW or this other poster who was so hostile towards GWX, so I can't say more than this: That other guy had a pretty decent post-count, far more than I, so he's been around awhile. I don't know if all of his posts were combative, and I can't be arsed to find out atm. I do know that BBW has contributed a lot to this community, and so by extension, to me personally, as have many of you lads here. I am profoundly grateful for the work you all have done; many folks don't seem to understand what a labour of love is all about, but it seems that many here do get it.

Baiting isn't a mod issue, folks. It's OUR issue. We're the one who "feed the trolls" (so to speak). If we respond to the juvenile behavior with more juvenile behavior, they win. If, on the other hand, we take away their audience - and choose not to reply - they lose their effectiveness real quick. Asking mods to deal with all the baiting is unfair to them, and unfair to us - we need to be the adults here, if others are choosing not to be. Calling for a mod is no different than calling for Mommy, and I think we're past that, most of us.

Someobdy around here has a sign that says, "Don't argue with idiots. They'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience." Pretty sound advice, if you ask me.

BBW, if you must leave, make it leave-time, not discharge time. You'll be missed by many, and welcomed gladly upon your return. And let not the dissenting opinion of one - or a few - disappointed people colour your work more than the praise of the many of us who are very grateful for it.

clayton 06-15-07 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Growler
I don't know if it's just me, or maybe others have observed this, too.

I've been on a lot of boards... more than is healthy, prolly. One thing that's common in all of them is that I just plain don't agree with some folks there.

But no matter how reasoned the argument, or how considered the discussion, the simple truth remains: Nothing I, or he, or she types is going to change someone else's mind when it comes down to staunchly-held feelings or beliefs.

Another observation: Many of the posters on many boards use those boards as their "rant toilets". This is where they show up to vomit up all their dissapointment with whatever game the board's about. Their very presence is an irritation to those who feel differently about the same game.

Lastly: Sometimes, even the good people have bad days, and their posts become unintentionally hurtful. It can be a right pain in the arse to interpret some people's posts for meaning.

Look, I don't know BBW or this other poster who was so hostile towards GWX, so I can't say more than this: That other guy had a pretty decent post-count, far more than I, so he's been around awhile. I don't know if all of his posts were combative, and I can't be arsed to find out atm. I do know that BBW has contributed a lot to this community, and so by extension, to me personally, as have many of you lads here. I am profoundly grateful for the work you all have done; many folks don't seem to understand what a labour of love is all about, but it seems that many here do get it.

Baiting isn't a mod issue, folks. It's OUR issue. We're the one who "feed the trolls" (so to speak). If we respond to the juvenile behavior with more juvenile behavior, they win. If, on the other hand, we take away their audience - and choose not to reply - they lose their effectiveness real quick. Asking mods to deal with all the baiting is unfair to them, and unfair to us - we need to be the adults here, if others are choosing not to be. Calling for a mod is no different than calling for Mommy, and I think we're past that, most of us.

Someobdy around here has a sign that says, "Don't argue with idiots. They'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience." Pretty sound advice, if you ask me.

BBW, if you must leave, make it leave-time, not discharge time. You'll be missed by many, and welcomed gladly upon your return. And let not the dissenting opinion of one - or a few - disappointed people colour your work more than the praise of the many of us who are very grateful for it.

Though you are correct, by not responding you allow posters you feel are baiting to influence newer players. MHO!

tdean001 06-15-07 01:43 PM

:nope: :nope: :nope: :nope:

It's a shame when the negative attitudes of others prevents a very creative and talented person from pursuing their interests. BBW- Take your time, enjoy RL, and come back sometime. We'll be here.

Tom

Mush Martin 06-15-07 02:08 PM

Kick at the darkness till it bleeds Daylight lads.
MM

Jimbuna 06-15-07 02:24 PM

I'm gonna take a chance here and post a brief piece :yep:

BBW is a friend of mine, someone I met through SubSim and someone who I physically speak to on a regular basis on TS :up:

I don't know exactly why this post has been suddenly resurrected :nope: But to the best of my belief and knowledge he has not left this forum....he is posting on an almost daily basis but not in the numbers he has in the past.
The main reason being ....he is extremely busy working on the next GWX release :yep:
I am sure he will respond when he has a little spare time (cos I'm gonna tell him on TS in a few hours) :rotfl:

bigboywooly 06-15-07 03:51 PM

You might have told me if you werent having your head shaved

:rotfl:

Yes the intention was to stay away while modding and it was getting to be a pantomine in here
All we needed was Barrymore :roll:
LMAO

Still busy with GWX so have reduced my time here to concentrate on that

Growler 06-15-07 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by clayton
Though you are correct, by not responding you allow posters you feel are baiting to influence newer players. MHO!

That is true, there is an element to that. Two things, however. One, if newer players see a lot if infighting and bickering, are they going to be as willing to join the community? And second, if a new player is going to be influenced by a lot of spite and vitriol... do we really want them around, anyway?

Go back to what I wrote earlier, about changing minds. Most of the time, you aren't going to change someone's point of view on something with words written on a forum; would you want to hang out with someone who changed that easily, with one bitter person's post?

Growler 06-15-07 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly
You might have told me if you werent having your head shaved

:rotfl:

Yes the intention was to stay away while modding and it was getting to be a pantomine in here
All we needed was Barrymore :roll:
LMAO

Still busy with GWX so have reduced my time here to concentrate on that

Hey, what's wrong with shaving heads... oh, wait... wow...

Anyway, fwiw, (Maybe I resurrected this thread? I dunno, it looked new) I'm glad I'm here, and nothing anyone says is gonna change that!:)

Water boy 06-16-07 04:59 PM

Modders.
 
Briefly.....
Been playing SH3 for years.
Complete PC idiot.
Would've binned SH3 as all played out until I discovered you guys.
D/L'd some mods, will play on for years........

You modders made it what it is, you modders keep it what it is and for idiots like me we are never ever far away from tech support, all we need do is ask.
Too many to name, too many more grateful players with me being one.

SH4 will be in the bargain bucket before I buy it at this rate, not because its not 100% but I've got so many more patrols left in SH3 now.
When I do pickup SH4 first thing I'm going to do is load it and come looking for you guys............

You cant catch fish if they wont bite....... ignore the crud and dont bite, they'll soon get bored. Either that or the moderators need to get in and snip it before it gets too heavy or personal.

Bottom line....... great job, keep up the good work...... you are appreciated.

:up:

Boris 06-16-07 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by iambecomelife
I hope you change your mind. ATM subsims aren't the most popular PC titles, and we need every decent modder & organizer we can get. I really don't want to see an already small modding community get even smaller (& lose a vital member at the same time). Again, for every coward who posts destructive criticism there are many dozens of people who quietly enjoy your work. Even if you don't hear from them as often as you should, please reconsider.

When can we quietly enjoy your work? :yep:

GlobalExplorer 06-16-07 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris
Quote:

Originally Posted by iambecomelife
I hope you change your mind. ATM subsims aren't the most popular PC titles, and we need every decent modder & organizer we can get. I really don't want to see an already small modding community get even smaller (& lose a vital member at the same time). Again, for every coward who posts destructive criticism there are many dozens of people who quietly enjoy your work. Even if you don't hear from them as often as you should, please reconsider.

When can we quietly enjoy your work? :yep:

Good question Boris. Over the last 1 1/2 years I kept busting his balls (every few months hehe) about when he will release his stuff, but he seems to feel no pressure at all. He's a phenomenon in that respect .. every one else would have given in by now :rotfl:

Dimitrius07 06-27-07 02:57 AM

First fo all - greetings to all Subsim members :rock:

Thise idiotizm hapen not only in thise forum, i am talking about a very annoying group of people ho trying to get attention by every tactics neceserry :nope: .
The best way is to unslut some one - thise is the most popular metod. The resolts you can see for your self. I` am come back affter a long brake and i found out that many people i know and respect are gone! Damn!! :damn:

The most unfair thing is letting thise group of people win. Every time you reply to thise idiots - they won because they get what they want, a god damn attention :x . Don`t pay attention to them, let the modderators do they job its not wose that :down:


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