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Armistead 11-27-13 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 2145391)
Would you care to place a bet?
:D

I have a Hatsan 125 Sniper in .25 cal useing the Nitro Piston.
I could probably shoot farther if I had a .22 version but then the wind has more effect on the lighter round.

My .22 cal Air Rifle does great to about 50 yards. But it's full Auto so intended to mow down anything in that range.
It is quite accurate also.
:03:

Oh, it's possible, have a friend with a converted .22 shooting ...seems over 1500 psi. Still, he can walk the target and get some hits, but never a tight grouping. You need some perfect weather.....

Madox58 11-27-13 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2145393)
the most probable source of the head shot is the rear left seat of the Secret Service chase car.

Occam's Razor
"the hypothesis with the fewest assumptions should be selected"

mapuc 11-27-13 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2145390)
JFK died.

Did he? jokes aside

What do we really know about his dead?

You right the only things we know for sure is that he died.(or did he?)

Markus

Jimbuna 11-27-13 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2145399)
Did he? jokes aside

What do we really know about his dead?

You right the only things we know for sure is that he died.(or did he?)

Markus

Well that is probably the only theory that hasn't been aired yet.

Dread Knot 11-27-13 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2145399)

You right the only things we know for sure is that he died.(or did he?)

According to this widely respected newspaper he was still alive 21 years ago. :D

http://gal.darkervision.com/wp-conte....thumbnail.jpg

Seriously what can one say? Presidents die. Conspiracy Theories live forever.

Madox58 11-27-13 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2145397)
Oh, it's possible, have a friend with a converted .22 shooting ...seems over 1500 psi. Still, he can walk the target and get some hits, but never a tight grouping. You need some perfect weather.....

I only fire the .25 Sniper on as windless of a day as possible.
That's why it takes 2 shots to trash the bottle at 100 yards.
The first shot, I watch the pellet and can see it's arc.
(You can see this with powder burners as a sort of vapor trail also)

I hit quarter size groups all day long at 100 yards with the Hatsan.
That's knowing I'm lobbing at nearly 2.93 feet high to allow for pellet drop.
I know the weight of the pellet and do the math in my head to adjust for windage.
(You get a knack for that as I'm sure you know so it's more how far to aim into the cross wind feel)

mapuc 11-27-13 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2145401)
Well that is probably the only theory that hasn't been aired yet.


It has. Has however only read this in a book.

Been awhile, since I read this book.(the book was about the most weird conspiracy)

The Secret Service got information, about a threat on the Presidents life, instead of cancel the tour, they manage to get a stand-in.

When this stand-in got killed, they had to hide the real JFK

Markus

Jimbuna 11-27-13 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2145412)
It has. Has however only read this in a book.

Been awhile, since I read this book.(the book was about the most weird conspiracy)

The Secret Service got information, about a threat on the Presidents life, instead of cancel the tour, they manage to get a stand-in.

When this stand-in got killed, they had to hide the real JFK

Markus

I meant on this thread...I should have made myself more clear.

Madox58 11-27-13 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dread Knot (Post 2145408)
According to this widely respected newspaper he was still alive 21 years ago. :D

He's was still alive less then a year ago.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age2141164/pg1
:yep:
(And a Monkey just flew out of my butt!)
:har:

Oberon 11-27-13 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2145399)
Did he? jokes aside

What do we really know about his dead?

Well, he could be running that Fish and Chip Shop with Elvis I guess. :03:

Armistead 11-27-13 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 2145411)
I only fire the .25 Sniper on as windless of a day as possible.
That's why it takes 2 shots to trash the bottle at 100 yards.
The first shot, I watch the pellet and can see it's arc.
(You can see this with powder burners as a sort of vapor trail also)

I hit quarter size groups all day long at 100 yards with the Hatsan.
That's knowing I'm lobbing at nearly 2.93 feet high to allow for pellet drop.
I know the weight of the pellet and do the math in my head to adjust for windage.
(You get a knack for that as I'm sure you know so it's more how far to aim into the cross wind feel)

Well, I miss shooting, but nerve disease gives me a mild tremor in my hands, so just do it now for fun when I can....

Madox58 11-27-13 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2145421)
Well, I miss shooting, but nerve disease gives me a mild tremor in my hands, so just do it now for fun when I can....

Sorry to hear about the tremor, Mate.
I enjoy the Air Guns as they are short range but require even more attention to the details to go longer ranges.
Most will tell you the 125 .25 Sniper is good for 30 to 40+ yards to be effective as a small critter killer with a high impact.
For the most part that is true.
I just happen to like shooting it at it's max range for a small critter kill shot.
If I can keep it to quarter size? that's good enuff to take a shot for me.

On the Air Gun, I use a bench rest I built so pretty much I hardly touch the Weapon itself.

And I see what your doing here!
You joined with that Criminal Tarjak and are de-railing a perfectly de-railed thread!!
You Bastids!!
:)

Father Goose 11-27-13 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2145393)
Read Mortal Error for a debunking of most of this opinion.

And I agree. If you look at the ballistics then the most probable source of the head shot is the rear left seat of the Secret Service chase car.

I'm not going to buy a book about a preposterious theory that a secret service agent accidentally shot the president in the head. Seriously? Really?

I believe my opinion is based on common sense and appears to be supported by Armistead who has made some excellent points and who obviously knows what he is talking about. :rock:

mapuc 11-27-13 03:55 PM

The Witness

Some ran up the hills, some ran toward the building where Lee was

Why?

Could it have something to do with echoes?
(an untrained ear can't say exactly from where a shot is from)
I'm talking about a shot in a street were there's skyscrapers nearby
(I know much about this, but only in Swedish and the google translate is no good)

Markus

TarJak 11-27-13 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Father Goose (Post 2145434)
I'm not going to buy a book about a preposterious theory that a secret service agent accidentally shot the president in the head. Seriously? Really?

I believe my opinion is based on common sense and appears to be supported by Armistead who has made some excellent points and who obviously knows what he is talking about. :rock:

Fine, believe what you want. If you don't want to spend any money you can get the gist by clicking on the link in this post: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2142418


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