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Are you a trained Sniper?

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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 2145338)

:hmmm:
Wonder if it can still be bought?

It's free to download AFAIK, and there's a patch that fixes some of the more bizarre physics, although if you deliberately set out to break the game it will react in an...interesting...fashion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOSFafsloes

Never played it myself, apparently the patch puts in a couple of different firing positions too, including the infamous 'grassy knoll'.

:haha:

I'll need to find this just to play with it!
Looks crazy as all heck!!

Then there is practice and familiarity with a particular weapon. I'm a much better shot with my own AR15 than I ever was with any of my government issued M16s.

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2145366)

Then there is practice and familiarity with a particular weapon. I'm a much better shot with my own AR15 than I ever was with any of my government issued M16s.

Agree again.
I have an Air Rifle that I can hit a beer bottle with at 100 yards on the second shot.

No one has been able to hit the bottle with the same rifle given 10 shots!
They might get it after 11 or so but never under 10!

It's setup for me and my quirks.

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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 2145370)

Folks dislike my AR zero too. Good sez I.

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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 2145362)

Are you a trained Sniper?

No, but I've shot for years. I did take numerous shooting courses over the years and once shot in competitions. Heck, I would've been shaking. One thing for sure, I would've picked a better angle and escape route...

Think about it...

Range, moving, windage, bolting and reacquiring target. He had obviously never shot from that spot before, no distance marking, probably unsure of when to shoot....

I think this skilled sniper makes a lot of sense.

http://www.riflewarrior.com/case_of_...ible_shots.htm

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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 2145370)

An air rifle at a 100 yards is liable to go all over the place....please.....:haha:

Yea. And this is a FEMA Camp in Ohio.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlnMT8yBjRw
:har:

Guess what? I live near this 'FEMA' camp!
It's in Lima, Ohio (Which he never mentions) and it is a prison!
:haha:

So what you see on the 'Netz' ain't really what it is at times.
:D

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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 2145365)

:haha:

I'll need to find this just to play with it!
Looks crazy as all heck!!

http://www.fileplanet.com/192027/dow...28Free-Game%29

Closest I've gotten so far is 425. It does illustrate how tricky a shot it is to get the ballistics matched exactly right, but you just never know.

Let's sum it all up, what do we really know?

Markus

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2145389)

Let's sum it all up, what do we really know?

Markus

JFK died.

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2145382)

An air rifle at a 100 yards is liable to go all over the place....please.....:haha:

Would you care to place a bet?
:D

I have a Hatsan 125 Sniper in .25 cal useing the Nitro Piston.
I could probably shoot farther if I had a .22 version but then the wind has more effect on the lighter round.

My .22 cal Air Rifle does great to about 50 yards. But it's full Auto so intended to mow down anything in that range.
It is quite accurate also.
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Originally Posted by Father Goose (Post 2145321)

I understand BubbleHead's frustration in providing "hard evidence" of a conspiracy. People have been trying to do that for 50 years.

But I would offer what the Warren Commission wants us to believe in the lone gunman's theory is almost as hard to believe.[/QUOTE ]
And as there's some good evidence that the head shot came from lower and to the left of Oswalds window , I don't believe that the Warren Commision came to the right conclusion either. I just don't believe that there was a conspiracy to kill JFK. There may have been a conspiracy to cover up a security detail failure but I have no hard evidence of that. That's why I try to stick to the hard evidence surrounding the shooting.

[QUOTE ] Ask any trained sniper firing in a multiple shot scenario and they will tell you that the first shot should be the most accurate. With that in mind, the following sequence of shots makes "Oswald the lone gunman theory" very difficult to support. And keep in mind the 2nd and 3rd shots were rushed and came from a cheap Mannlicher Carcano rifle with a misaligned scope.

Shot 1 - Misses the presidential limousine.
The best shot...and he misses the entire limousine. Interesting.

Shot 2 - Hits Kennedy in the back and exits through the neck.
Oswald makes a tremendous improvement with an obvious rush of adrenaline and the rush from cycling the rifle.

Shot 3 - Hits Kennedy perfectly in the back of the head.
This may be the greatest improvement in shooting of all-time. Oswald went from missing the entire car with a shot that should be his best, to a direct hit, all while in a rush to cycle the rifle and re-sight the target.

Is it possible? Yes
Is it probable? No

Read Mortal Error for a debunking of most of this opinion.

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could easier believe the third shot was another shooter's first shot from another location, possibly also behind the limousine.

And I agree. If you look at the ballistics then the most probable source of the head shot is the rear left seat of the Secret Service chase car.

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2145388)

http://www.fileplanet.com/192027/dow...28Free-Game%29

Thanks for the link Mate.
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I want to take a look at this one just to see if I can adjust somethings.
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