The Turkish army seems to have lost its professionalism. In recent days, a third of thei general corps and highe rofficer corps has been sacked. Add to this the hundreds of high ranking officers that got sacked 2008 and 2009 over constructed charges. While later many of them were relieved by courts - one of the reaosns why Eedoidghan is cleanign the courts sinc eyears, too - none of them returned into his former military career and position.

So what yiou ahve is an army that has lost more than the half of its leading officers and generals withion just 8 years - and all these have been replaced with AKP loyalists who were sprinting through the ranks of their career becasue Erdoighan protected them and wnated them to take over the generla corps.

In recent combat with the Kurds, international observers claim the Turks are acting with less punishing effectiveness and more mere brutality, wiping out whole villages and cities to a degree that is unprecedented in the Kurdish conflict of the imminent decades before. Genocide and war crimes are often described now, committed by Turkish troops that are badly commanded and are sent to go on rampage.

The Turkish forces once were known to be led with a hard hand, but more or less competently, and with am ölot of discipline. All this is disappearing.

Not even to mention that the guardian of the constitution is dead. As I said earlier in the thread: the military's attempted coup came many years too late. Heck, I already said that ten years ago.

^Stalin anyone...oh and why does the whole coup remind me so much of the of the Reichstag fire in 1933....:dead:

So now comes the "Ausnahmezustand" - is that 'martial law' or 'state of emergency' in English? Or is it both?

Over 600 schools have been shut down, the lion'S share, over 530, were private schools where the AKP had not as much a say as it wanted. After many thousands of educaiton staff and highschool teacher already had been kicked, now over 1200 additonal university deans have be told to "voluntarily resign".

and they have a stock pile of US nukes!! What stops them from taking and possibly using them if they wanted? What if ISIS got them, what a horrid thought!!:dead:

I think they a locked in many ways-Locked in a store, locked in itself.

Meaning the person or persons who want the hands on those have to opened several keys to access them

Markus

Not even my appartment door is unbreakable - and that is an 8 cm thick resistance class 4-door with three layers of hardened steel, 33 anchor points and magnetic locks that cannot be picked. ;)

I've got door envy. :D

From which we get the expression; "Katie! bar the door!" :O: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2419375#post2419375 http://www.kbismarck.org/photos/mk23.jpg
:D http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/213750.html

More likely that Daesh will somehow manage to reach the base unhindered, somehow know NATO protocols, guard strenght and weak spots and when the attack will begin the Turk army will be occupied with a large Kurd attack about 2000km from where the nearest Kurd resides and won't be able to intervene until the nukes would be plundered. And I believe there might be an air control technical problem to delay any rapid response frm NATO to get there in time.

If what Erdoghan did up to now was "normal", i wonder what the "Ausnahmezustand" or "state of emergency" will look like.. :shifty:

How many Kurds does he have to kill for a genocide rating?

If I ever rob you I'll take the door.

I guess going through the wall will be much easier.

But why is Skybird in a maximum security prison? :hmmm: :O:

That's obvious, if I want to sell the door later I need them undamaged, ergo destroy the wall around it.

You're right, I never thought about that, maybe he has access to the prison library computer. :o Wonder why he's there, can't be just for trolling!!:hmmm:

:D Its just that behind the door is my refugium, my private life, my home and my castle, my possessions and belongings, and my beloved Gemütlichkeit. And I defend that, ohne Wenn und Aber. I would even shoot to kill to defend my home, I am a grumpy old badger when it is about my cave, and I am very choosey whom I let in, and whom not. Crime rates are skyrocketing in Germany, the police more or less frankly admits they cannot do anything about it, and domestic burglary is in a very steep climb. And the overwhelming majority of burglars that they get (in my place of the country less than 5% or burglary cases get solved), end up on free foot again. Do not count on police protection over here - you'd be lost. The decisions of courts and judges most often overstep the line to treason of the people.

Intermezzo:
If you ever plan to replace your own door to your flat or appartment (chose a good one and it is much more safe than just adding locks and bars), do so with a door from Austria. After the war, German big cities were flattened, the places got rebuild and they used all that DIN-standardized kits and pieces that became a fashion after WWII. But the Austrian big cities escaped that fate in a much better state, leaving more old houses unharmed or only slightly damaged, and so more old, individually crafted doors remained that needed individual solutions that are made to measure if they are to be repaired, replaced, or reinforced. Thats the reason why you find more experience in this regard amongst Austrian carpenters, and so more companies producing such doors formed up in Austria. I struggled to find what I wanted in Germany. In Austria, I saw according offers and producers stepping each other on the feet. The most advanced Austrian offers I found no match for in Germany. RIHA or ADLO, both Austrians, are market leaders in Europe. I imported fromAustria and the craftsman putting it in was from 200km away, which is a lot by German standards. In my< place and surropundign area, I did not find what I wanted. In Austria it is common.

And yes, I like my door very much.:D We got close friends from day one on.