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Kapitan
10-10-06, 04:29 PM
I have to move out of my home in a few weeks to go move in with my girl friend and ive got to find a new job with that, ive applied to go onto tottenham dust carts its a huge fall in wage to what im on now.
I earn £9.85 a hour roughly and on this job im right down to £5.35 an hour so that works at roughly £220 a week instead of my £363 a week.
But i was told i am entitled to working tax credits to make up for my loss in wage, however i went to the inland revenue and appernetly im not enetitled to naff all.
They said to qualify i must have either a child or my girl friend has to be pregnant, i must be registerd homeless or have a disability, or come from a forign country.
It amazes me how our own country a system ive paid into is now hading my hard earnt cash to some one who shouldnt be here and doesnt deserve the money, and chances are will never pay it back into the system in his entire life.
And im the mug for paying it.
Its just disgusting.
TteFAboB
10-10-06, 04:42 PM
Tell them you come from Russia, that covers the foreing country part, then say you speak and sing like Lilly Allen, it's a sure pass on the disability requirement, and finally search inside the nearest hospital's trash bin for an aborted baby to insert up the Uterus of your girfriend.
Oh, and show up with a big card-board box under your arm and tell them they didn't accepted to register you as homeless because of this mobile home.
Onkel Neal
10-10-06, 06:18 PM
Socialism sucks, unless you're lazy or unfortunate, then it pays big dividends. If you're hard-working, smart, and successful, you are expected to hand over more in taxes to pay for them have-nots.
What is "tottenham dust carts" and why not go to college, you don't have any kids yet, do you?
HunterICX
10-10-06, 06:22 PM
Socialism sucks, unless you're lazy or unfortunate, then it pays big dividends. If you're hard-working, smart, and successful, you are expected to hand over more in taxes to pay for them have-nots.
What is "tottenham dust carts" and why not go to college, you don't have any kids yet, do you?
:shifty: and guess what happens if an Big Boy in an big company that is caught frauding....he gets away with it...while they should rip him off totally to the lowest class of life and take away everything he owns.
Tottenham dustcarthttp://www.haringey.gov.uk/better_haringey_lorry.jp
Going to college in the UK costs a lot of money and you need some good exam pases to get in to a course.As far as I know no college is yet running a vodka tasting appreciation course.Kap if I were you I would be down the RN careers office tomorrow morning!
kiwi_2005
10-10-06, 06:57 PM
Yeah agree with Neal on this one. Kapitan go to what we call over here University or polytech, and learn a trade - maybe you could become a professor in Russian History? :lol: but anyways have a trade under your arm pays good money, for instance electricians get $55 an hr over here, starting rate as soon as your qualified is $28 an hr. but whateva your choice is your have to go apprentice for a few yrs meaning your pay will be low, yet at the end of it all your be self-employed have a trade and slowly watch your salary get higher and higher.
Onkel Neal
10-10-06, 10:36 PM
Socialism sucks, unless you're lazy or unfortunate, then it pays big dividends. If you're hard-working, smart, and successful, you are expected to hand over more in taxes to pay for them have-nots.
What is "tottenham dust carts" and why not go to college, you don't have any kids yet, do you?
:shifty: and guess what happens if an Big Boy in an big company that is caught frauding....he gets away with it...while they should rip him off totally to the lowest class of life and take away everything he owns.
I understand and I share your opinion that white collar crime is just as wrong as any other. The Big Boys don't always get away with it. It's a point of pride with me that our society and business world strive uphold ethics and law.
But what has that to do with the dole, mate? :)
Kapitan, a bit of friendly advice mate:
But i was told i am entitled to working tax credits to make up for my loss in wage, however i went to the inland revenue and appernetly im not enetitled to naff all.
Working tax credits compensate low earners, they don't automatically make up for a cut in wages when you move job.
See this page for more info: http://www.direct.gov.uk/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/BenefitsTaxCreditsAndOtherSupport/TaxCredits/fs/en
The Inland Revenue deal with your Income Tax only - they have absolutely nothing to do with benefits - so don't go to them for advice. (Edit: I may be wrong on that one, they may deal behind the scenes with the tax credit but the point of contact for advice is as per the webite, not just your local Inland Revenue Office.)
They said to qualify i must have either a child or my girl friend has to be pregnant
That sounds more like Child tax credit - see the link on the page I've posted earlier.
i must be registerd homeless or have a disability
Those are different benefits again, see link above.
I'm no expert on this (I've been lucky enough never to have to claim benefits) but I'd suggest giving the official websites a good going over, then contact someone at the appropriate authority if you think you've got an entitlement. Bear in mind that you've chosen to move home which has meant a change to a lower paying job - it's not the government's responsibility to keep you in the style to which you've become accustomed.
As for the whole 'foreigners are claiming all the benefits' stuff - sounds like the standard crap that's doing the rounds in this country at the moment, fuelled by rags like The Sun and the Daily Mail. Forget it and look out yourself - too many people look for someone else to blame and it's all too easy to jump on the immigration bandwagon.
HunterICX
10-11-06, 03:11 AM
Socialism sucks, unless you're lazy or unfortunate, then it pays big dividends. If you're hard-working, smart, and successful, you are expected to hand over more in taxes to pay for them have-nots.
What is "tottenham dust carts" and why not go to college, you don't have any kids yet, do you?
:shifty: and guess what happens if an Big Boy in an big company that is caught frauding....he gets away with it...while they should rip him off totally to the lowest class of life and take away everything he owns.
I understand and I share your opinion that white collar crime is just as wrong as any other. The Big Boys don't always get away with it. It's a point of pride with me that our society and business world strive uphold ethics and law.
But what has that to do with the dole, mate? :)
just to say how unfair the governement can be sometimes, they suck us dry with all the taxes and claim till the end of our days.
just an example my dad has an Pension (or how do you spell that when you turn 65 and get money that u saved over the years) and now the taxes are already claiming 80.000 euros he's not even 50 yet and they are claiming already because we moved from Holland to spain and thats how they started to sending letters that they claim that money....(its a taxes bureau in holland) because they are afraid that they dont see any money because we moved to spain.
Kapitan
10-11-06, 09:17 AM
I dont have a child yet also the reason why im not at college is because i simply will not get into debt over it, i have a friend who has been at college for 3 years and owes £14,000 id rather work save the money up then go to college at least i know i wont be paying it off at the age of 40.
Also i want to go to college so joining the RN tommorrow is not an option at the moment however if push does come to shove its number 1 on the list.
And a dust cart neal is a garbage truck and totenham is a place in london england.
Ishmael
10-11-06, 09:46 PM
Those who still have faith in the system have yet to experience it fully.
XabbaRus
10-12-06, 02:50 AM
What happened to joining the merchant navy Kap?
Konovalov
10-12-06, 05:17 AM
What happened to joining the merchant navy Kap?
I thought that also. What happened there Kapitan?
Just to let you know Kap if your not on a minimum of £30,000 a year you can forget paying in to a private pension. I reviewed my one and was told by a couple of experts I would have to work to a minimum age of 72 before retiring, charming so I pulled the plug on it. This government has lied to everyone they are forcing all of us to work on and drop dead at work.
So much for the state taking care of you when you retire, criminals get better treatment from the state. This country is finished. :nope:
Konovalov
10-12-06, 05:50 AM
So much for the state taking care of you when you retire, criminals get better treatment from the state. This country is finished. :nope:
Cheer up mate. At least you got the Ashes back from us for once. The sun is even shining here in London right now. :sunny:
So much for the state taking care of you when you retire, criminals get better treatment from the state. This country is finished. :nope:
Cheer up mate. At least you got the Ashes back from us for once. The sun is even shining here in London right now. :sunny:
Not for long you guys are going to win them back soon and for what I heard the real ashes. :huh:
I don't think the English cricket team is up to scratch.
PS: It's all so :sunny: here too.
Konovalov
10-12-06, 05:56 AM
So much for the state taking care of you when you retire, criminals get better treatment from the state. This country is finished. :nope:
Cheer up mate. At least you got the Ashes back from us for once. The sun is even shining here in London right now. :sunny:
Not for long you guys are going to win them back soon and for what I heard the real ashes. :huh:
I don't think the English cricket team is up to scratch.
There must be something positive about England right now. Obviosuly it's not Engalnds 2-0 loss against Croatia last night which was truly a forgettable performance. :nope:
Kapitan
10-12-06, 07:25 AM
I was dropped at the last moment because the fleet wood college was full and when they came to transfer me to warsash the courses had started, but it doesnt matter cause now it means im garenteed a place next september and to be honest i found that suites me better as i have a bit more time to dwell on things and also spend some time with my GF.
VipertheSniper
10-12-06, 07:53 AM
Dust carts eh? What did you work before?
Anyway, here in Vienna, it's almost impossible to get a job on the garbage patrol, it's a very well payed job, and to get in you almost have to marry a girl who's father is in. It's almost like the mafia or something.
Kapitan
10-12-06, 09:15 AM
Its practically the same here, some guys wait 5 years before becoming full time and fully employed on the dust's and a dust cart is a garbage truck / what ever else its caleed.
Konovalov
10-12-06, 09:27 AM
I was dropped at the last moment because the fleet wood college was full and when they came to transfer me to warsash the courses had started, but it doesnt matter cause now it means im garenteed a place next september and to be honest i found that suites me better as i have a bit more time to dwell on things and also spend some time with my GF.
Oh well. Hopefully you will in a years time or so have some good seafaring yarns to tell us all. :up:
Oh well. Hopefully you will in a years time or so have some good seafaring yarns to tell us all. :up:
No need mate - we'll just hear about them in the news ;)
A supertanker ran aground today......
Konovalov
10-12-06, 10:14 AM
Oh well. Hopefully you will in a years time or so have some good seafaring yarns to tell us all. :up:
No need mate - we'll just hear about them in the news ;)
A supertanker ran aground today......
:lol: :lol:
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